1908 Large Date Five Cents Your Opinion?

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tamarin Pillar of the Community Canada 576 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 12:28 pm I've received a number of ICCS coins lately that I'd sent in. This one has caused a little dust up with a knowledgeable, long time collector I've shown it to. He insists the opinion of the leading grading and identification company in Canada is wrong and it's not a Large 8. What do you think? Report this Post to the Staff

DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9866 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 1:20 pm Look no further than the cross at the top of the reverse crown If it's like a bow tie with a dot in the center you have a large date. If it's like a plain cross punched over top of a bow tie you've got a small. Can't be 100% certain from your pics but it kinda sorta looks like cross over bow. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 07/26/2019 1:23 pm Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3663 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 5:48 pm Here's a link to a very helpful website that has excellent marker photographs for the distinction. Report this Post to the Staff
tamarin Pillar of the Community Canada 576 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 7:06 pm Thanks DBM and fortcollins for the input! It does look like a cross on top of the reverse crown. But the 8 doesn't look like a small 8 digit and yet it doesn't have the robustness of the large 8 loop cross-over either. Is there a third variety for this date? I have higher grade small 8 coins here but the 8's look distinctly different from this one. And they do have the cross on top of the reverse crown. Puzzles me. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 7:33 pm Refurbished dies can look very different. Sm 8. Report this Post to the Staff
tamarin Pillar of the Community Canada 576 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 9:53 pm Thanks, Mike! You and my longtime collector friend would agree. Now the dilemma: to break it out or leave it be. Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3663 Posts	Posted 07/27/2019 12:26 am I haven't encountered an erroneous attribution with ICCS yet, but it might be worth contacting ICCS to see if they would cross it over with a corrected attribution at no charge. Having their authentication and grade opinion is worthwhile. The grade looks spot on. Report this Post to the Staff
tamarin Pillar of the Community Canada 576 Posts	Posted 07/27/2019 07:21 am Fortcollins, I'd love to leave the flip as it is. What I could do is submit one more 1908 to ICCS that has the identical type of 8 on it and almost the same grade. I have quite a few of the year here and this second example is a dead ringer for the coin you see in the ICCS flip that began this thread. I might do it and see what they assess the coin as. I remain perplexed but interested. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 07/27/2019 6:46 pm The grader at ICCS is not the same one that built their reputation. I have a nice au sm 8 if you need one for the test. Report this Post to the Staff
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