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Valued Member
United States
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Edited by varord 10/16/2008 2:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1231 Posts |
That's how the crack-out game is played. One day it's a 63 the next it's a 61. Tomorrow it might be a 64. It's how the TPG's make money. That's why I don't play the plastic game. Why pay for an opinion, when I can post a coin here and get free opinions.
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Valued Member
 United States
64 Posts |
Plastic game also have some rules, and it falls in the range of 1 grade above-below, and generally it is predictable. The coin I submitted is in the range 63-64, with slight chances to be 62 and even less 65. Not 61 and not 66.
What is your opinion about this coin.
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Valued Member
United States
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Grading is subjective. If you want to call it 64 crack it out and call it 64, IF it meets the specifications for a 64. Otherwise you will accept the TPGs grading or crack it out and resubmit so many times that you actually get the coin back in the red (meaning you're eating all those submission fees).
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Valued Member
 United States
64 Posts |
I know and I crack coins not very often, only when coin is obviously undergraded. In this case it is amazing that this coin could be 61. Even novice collector, not speaking professional grader will grade it 63 at least, as it was graded before. I posted this to inform that NGC is not that great company as its reputation will tell.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4541 Posts |
I think it is a beautiful coin! 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
as you stated it was graded a long time ago, its according to how long ago to what their standards were at that time. The grading companies are in strict mode right now because they have been catching allot of slack about their lax grading so if they were generous at the time it was submitted the first time and they are strict now I can understand why it is 2 points less than it was the first time
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Valued Member
 United States
64 Posts |
OK. I can understand your point. However the coin itself is not 61. Not even 62. It can be seen even from these pictures, while under 10x magnification coin looks almost perfect. I am confident, if I resubmit, it will be graded 63-64.
Actually I have not received the coin back yet, just the grading. So other possibility is it was damages somehow.
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Rest in Peace
United States
5375 Posts |
Sometimes, they might think they see something that qualifies it for less. Maybe the strike, too. But it looks a LOT nicer than 61, I would completely agree. 61 coins usually don't look that nice.
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Valued Member
 United States
64 Posts |
It is average strike, for this denomination I would say even good one. Perfect rim. I investigated coin, as you may guess, before submitting.
Will wait to see what condition it is now.
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Valued Member
 United States
64 Posts |
I have a good collection of $1 coins and know how 61 looks :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1415 Posts |
Two suggestions: Why not send it off to another TPG? They may have another opinion. OR !! Send it to me. I will grade - keep for awhile to admire - then send it back - maybe 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6326 Posts |
The "resubmittal game" might very well produce yet another grade too !!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1415 Posts |
 with Eaglefoot. Omit suggestion #1 and do the second 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Could also easily be a mechanical error. Grader graded it a 64, types 64 on the numeric keypad on the computer and his finger slips down a little. What is right below the 4 on the keypad? Why it's a 1!
Your real mistake was cracking it out to send it back in to the same grading company. Should have just sent it in for a regrade still in the slab. You would have either gotten it back in the higher grade holder, left in the same holder, or if for some reason they did regrade it as a 61 you would have at least gotten paid for the difference in value. By cracking it you lost that payment.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If the grade does not fit, you must re-submit! 
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