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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Conder, you should have left it in the slab. By cracking it out, you just potentially lost hundreds of dollars. If they downgraded it when sent in for a regrade and it was in the slab, they would have to pay you the grade difference.

Also, the crackout game is not to be played by amateurs or people who cannot afford a multi-thousand dollar loss. Yes, you could get a multi-thousand dollar grade bump up but unless you have 20-30 years of expertise grading not just coins but that particular series, you will wind up losing almost every time. Even with that experience, it is a calculated gamble.

Your only choice at this point if you do not want to accept a significant monetary loss is to send it back again and possible again and then spend alot more money in grading fees until you reach a grade that you like or you could even try sending it to PCGS.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say that is a sharp looking coin!

Conder made the best points. You should have left it in the original holder if you were sending it back to the same service. If it is a clerical error, maybe you can call them and question the grade and verify what the grader intended.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add varord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conder101. Yes, I was thinking, may be it was graded 64 and then was read as 1. :)
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add varord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wwhitman. How long would you keep? :)
I would resubmit it to PCGS, this time.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add varord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will send it for regrading and will post the outcome.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add varord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
biokemist6, I have some experience with coins and most of the time will guess the coin right or with 1 grade error. I posted because I never seen an error this big.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree it's a nice coins, and I don't think it's a 61 though. Personally, you should have just sent it to them for review rather than cracking it out. Keep us updated when you resend it back to them(also, did they use the new slab on it?).
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 Posted 09/12/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add varord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazon99 Thank you. I already arranged a review.
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 Posted 09/18/2008  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michelle K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Newby question

What's 'craking out'?
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 Posted 09/19/2008  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Varord,
I agree this coin should grade at least MS-63. Please let us know how the NGC review turns out. I've never asked for a grade review and would be interested in how it works.

The PCGS price guide shows values of $2700 and $5300 for the 1853-O in MS-63 and MS-64, respectively. This coin appears to have all the features of an MS-64 example. If you are not satisfied with the NGC review, considering the value difference I'd say it's worth another try at re-grading. I'd try PCGS if it were my coin.

That's a good point about possible damage. Your photos are very clear and by comparing the returned coin to those images you should be able to confirm whether the coin was mishandled during the grading process. If you can, please post new photos when you get it back and we'll help you look!
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 Posted 09/19/2008  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dimetime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am new here but the 1st picture is very different than the 2nd. could they have switched coins on you?
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 Posted 09/19/2008  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dimetime,
those are two different coins- the first one is owned by the OP and the second one is from Heritage Auctions archives and it is just an example of a MS61

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 Posted 09/19/2008  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
I don't own any slabbed coins, and I fail to understand how an opinion can be more important than the reality.
Anyway, having read this thread, I now realize that grading is just another form of lottery: sometimes you win; ...
I'm putting together a set of USA 1853 coins, and I'm content to stick to Philadelphia. But I would gladly make room for your 1853-O.
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 Posted 09/24/2008  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't own any slabbed coins, and I fail to understand how an opinion can be more important than the reality.


Slabbing a coin is usually done to authenticate it. It's main purpose is to make the buyer feel comfortable about buying your coin for the condition you state it to be. Like with this gold dollar, it's worth more in 63 than 61. If it wasn't slabbed, someone might not want to pay the full price because they don't know if it's a 63 and if it doesn't have any unseen damage to it.



Warord, Keep us updated with what NGC says.
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