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Montreal British Militia Token

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 Posted 08/15/2019  07:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add field_of_mars to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi again,

I don't want to abuse your help to much but wanted to hear your opinion on one last coin I have recently found detecting. It's a Montreal British Militia token and I would like to know its approx. grade.

Thanks again



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 Posted 08/15/2019  08:14 am  Show Profile   Check NumisCat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisCat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a VF or possibly better example that is corroded. Terrific find!
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 Posted 08/15/2019  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The back side makes me think of a button,are you sure it is a token?
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 Posted 08/15/2019  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with John, looks like either a button or cuff link.
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It's a button that was used as a currency in early 1800's. You can notice in the picture of its back that the shank has been cut off and the space flattened in order for the button to be used as a coin,closely matching the size of the British Halfpenny.
"Among soldiers constantly trying to stretch their pay, buttons were a favourite substitute for coins. Typically, the shank was removed from the back and the button was flattened before being placed into circulation".
Being at the same time one of the earliest Canadian tokens and an early military button the examples of it are part of both : The National Currency Collection of the Bank of Canada and The Canadian War Museum collection. It's featured in Charlton Coin Guide.

http://www.coinsandcanada.com/token...-1830&id=324
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Better than my example. See this thread page 17. http://goccf.com/t/163981&whichpage=17

Montreal British Militia Button / token c.1830-1870. Charlton # MB-2 $250CAD in VG, $350 in F, $500 in VF
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 Posted 08/16/2019  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find , I have tried to find a couple at auction , but have always been outbid.
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1960 NYGiants

The button itself dates to late 1700's, not sure why in the coin guide it's ID'd to the early Victorian period where as in War Museum it's late 1700's
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 Posted 08/16/2019  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A terrific find!
Since these seem to rarely be available in the marketplace, they fly under the radar of some collectors .Crossover collecting in the militaria world is stronger for such items, but it presumably is a token since the shank is gone.
I have an example as well, detected too of course ,its a hard one to cross off the shopping list lol
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It was really surprising to find it in a good condition on a plowed field. In my view, it was definitely a token as on top of the shank being cut off but that space was polished afterwards.
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A plowed field! Smart move! Given the paucity of productive public areas now for detectorists, any excavation-like activity in an older area of settlement can prove pleasing.
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