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Valued Member
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Hey everyone, I'm a beginner and on ebay bought some State Quarters to help fill in whitman/littleton books for my nieces and nephews. But when I received them, they came in a "roll" that was marked "uncirculated-60" and the coins are definitely better than the normal business strike that I am accustomed to. Should I put them in the Whitman books? Is there a way to store them in folders and keep them in the same condition? Maybe if I wrapped the book tight or put gel packs in the drawer with them? Do I need to just put these in 2X2's or should I get plastic holders for them? I have read several articles but they don't give me specifics on uncirculated coins, especially MS 60's that already have small scratches, etc. Thanks!
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I would highly recommend putting them in 2x2s or a nicer album (like Dansco or Whitman). Either will allow you to see both sides of the coin. They also offer better protection. Folders only allow you to see one side of the coins. Both sides are exposed to dangers; the front to wandering fingers and the back to the paper and glue that the folders are made with.
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Valued Member
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Where's the best site to buy a "Whitman" or "Dansco". Are these the ones that have sliding plastic windows? My grandmother had one of those and her coins looked horrible when I got them.
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Quote: Where's the best site to buy a "Whitman" or "Dansco". I recommend Wizard Coin Supply. There will probably be recommendations from other members, so do shop around! Quote: Are these the ones that have sliding plastic windows? My grandmother had one of those and her coins looked horrible when I got them. Yes. You were on to something when you asked about how to store the folders/albums/etc. These things are not airtight; and coins need to be keep in a climate controlled environment. Putting the albums in Ziploc bags with desiccant packs can help if you live in a high humidity area. For the record, I have been using Dansco albums for about 25 years now with no problems and no complaints.
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 . I prefer the Dansco albums. I checked out Wizard Coin Supply jbuck, looks good. Never purchased from them but looks like I might. I usually buy from Brent Kreuger or at Long Beach which I attend twice a year.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
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Here's how I understand your original question...... You have been filling quarter folders with "regular condition" quarters for your neices and nephews and you now have " one roll of uncirc. 60 grade quarters." Should you "mix" the higher grade quarters with the lesser grade quarters in these albums ? I would say no. Don't mix them. It doesn't do you (them) any good to have MOSTLY COMMON GRADES in the folders with ONE STATE here and there in MS-60 condition! So, continue as you have been in "filling these folders" WITHOUT using that MS-60 roll. And then the question on how to store the folders and what to do with this one roll of MS-60 qtrs. "Storage" for the folders has been wonderfully covered already. This one roll.....(I assume all one state) could be handled a couple ways.... First, put them into a coin tube and leave them there. Or, try to tackle the endeavor of creating an "album" or "folder" with ALL MS-60 GRADE QUARTERS. This is where the advice on using an "album" instead of a "folder" would be wise. The album will protect these "higher grade" quarters much better. And there wouldn't be anything terribly wrong with putting this "one roll" into 2x2's, if they're indeed MS-60 grade. I just don't really see the point of joining "one state" in MS-60 with ALL OF THE OTHER STATES being in a "lessor" grade condition, into one State Quarter Series Folder. Just my Two Cents........ 
Edited by eaglefoot 09/13/2008 12:41 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: especially MS 60's that already have small scratches, etc By the way, those would be "Bag Marks" and that is common and even part of the "grade description".
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Bedrock of the Community
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM As to the poor condition of the coins in the album from a relative, they may have been bad when put in there. Difficult to know unless someone describes what they looked like originally. My own opinion of the State Quarters is they will never be really worth a fortune in any grades so don't worry to much about them. Albums can usually be purchased at most coin stores and coin shows. Try looking up those to see if any in your area. Purchasing on line is usually easy but you pay for postage, handling, etc. As already noted there are several places to buy albums. If your concerned as to the longevity of the condition of your collection, you could do as I do. Place the albums in a zip lock plastic bag and push the air out prior to closing. Someone on this web site suggested to place a straw in and suck out all the air and I tried that and it works much better than pushing air out with my hands. I've got over 100 Whitman Classic Albums and all in those Zip Lock bags and have never had any problems with any coins. The main thing is that you mentioned folders. I suggest you do not put coins in what is called a folder. Those are the ones where you do not see the reverse and the coins must be pushed into a slot. Sometimes almost requries a hammer to get them in there. Stick with albums where you can see both sides of a coin.
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Thank you all for your help. Here are some more details: This one roll.....(I assume all one state) could be handled a couple ways....Actually they are all different. The label states "48 coint Statehood Quarter Set Uncirculated - 60 ST3498 barcode ------------barcode Littleton Coin Co., Littleton, NH 03561 etc. etc." I just don't really see the point of joining "one state" in MS-60 with ALL OF THE OTHER STATES being in a "lessor" grade condition, into one State Quarter Series Folder." I agree. Because there really are 48 different coins, that is why the quandry. I actually started to compare some of them to my collections in the folders and to my very untrained eye, some of mine were actually in better condition. Go figure. I write the date on the folder of when I got the coin and some of the dates are right after they were issued so I think some are Business strike, but basicly uncirculated. I am wondering if the UnCirculated 60 roll have actually gone down in grade. Is that possible? Since the roll was from Littleton, I expected it to be official, at least at some point and time. (BTW, the reason we started with folders is because my girls were younger and learning about geography, yada yada yada. . . and I got a little of the bug and wanted to finish these out.)
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Valued Member
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Hey Carl!
"I've got over 100 Whitman Classic Albums"
Some of my folders say Whitman on them but I am getting the impression these are not the same as "albums". Are the Albums the ones with the little windows?
I was looking at those and they say you can add pages to them? Is this kind of like a photo album and you can connect extra pages into the spine/binding?
Also I was reading about an album that you can add pages to it and it seemed more like a 3 ring binder. This album had a page that you could put 2x2's in. Would that solution work well for these 48 MS-60 quarters?
Which is better for a complete novice like me? Whitman or Dansco. I read somewhere that one of them includes spaces for proofs and errors and I don't think I want that at this point.
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Quote: Some of my folders say Whitman on them but I am getting the impression these are not the same as "albums". Are the Albums the ones with the little windows? Whitman makes both albums and folders. The folders only allow you to see one side of the coin. The albums have the plastic slides allowing you to see both sides of the coin.  Quote: Which is better for a complete novice like me? Whitman or Dansco. I read somewhere that one of them includes spaces for proofs and errors and I don't think I want that at this point. I am partial to the Dansco. Dansco makes three versions, one with proofs (P,D,S and S Silver), one without (P&D), a one that is Date only (P or D). See them here.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: I agree. Because there really are 48 different coins, that is why the quandry. There really are 200 different coins, so I don't know what you have. They'll never be worth more thn face, but if you likespending your time with stuff like that, take a clean soft cotton cloth and wipe them down one at a time. Make sure you properly dispose of the cloth as hazardous waste when you're done.
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I'd keep your set of 48 coins, then add the last two as soon as you get them in change. If they haven't circulated much, like if you see the cashier break open a solid roll of the latest state, they'll be in just as good shape. Grades for uncirculated coins start at 60, and go up 61, 62... to 70. Your roll probably isn't all coins with a grade of exactly 60, it's just their way of saying they are all uncirculated (at least 60). As for collecting with your younger family members... I would go to the bank and get a few rolls of quarters, dump them out on the table, and look through them. Let the kids do all the sorting work - you just have to provide the quarters. Take the rejects back to the bank and you won't be out much. Repeat until finished. Kids will find this a lot more fun and memorable than receiving an already complete set off of ebay. Kids not old enough? Wait 5 or 10 years - the quarters will still be here. I agree that these will never be worth much more than face value. There's probably 100,000,000 americans with folders and maps and jars full of them. Have fun collecting but don't worry about spending too much on preservation. WheatieFan
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First, make sure to ENJOY the coins!
There are a couple of problems here. If you buy a new Dansco/Whitman album, that will be about as much as the value of the coins you have in it..... Something to think about.
The problem with the folder is the exposed face of the coin - especially if children will be looking at them as they have a tendancy to want to touch, etc. On the other hand if this is supposed to be a kind of "living" history thing, then that isn't a problem.
You also say that some of the coins you already have appear nicer than what is in the roll. If that is the case, I would go through the roll and replace any that are better from the roll. After all, you can't enjoy the coins if they sit in a plastic tube in the back of a drawer somewhere.
It would be a good idea to use a soft cloth when inserting the coins into the folder (if you decide to keep the folder).
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Some of my folders say Whitman on them but I am getting the impression these are not the same as "albums". Are the Albums the ones with the little windows? I was looking at those and they say you can add pages to them? Is this kind of like a photo album and you can connect extra pages into the spine/binding? Also I was reading about an album that you can add pages to it and it seemed more like a 3 ring binder. This album had a page that you could put 2x2's in. Would that solution work well for these 48 MS-60 quarters? Which is better for a complete novice like me? Whitman or Dansco. I read somewhere that one of them includes spaces for proofs and errors and I don't think I want that at this point.
WELCOME TO THE FORUM OF INFORMATION. To attempt to answer some of your questions in addition to those already noted. Folders are fairly bad for coins due to the process of making them and the process of placing coins in them. The rear of the slots are shinny due to the glue process making them. Coins usually have to be pressed into the slots with your thumb and I've seen kids use a rubber hammer to get some in. Folders are cheap and are made by many different companies and many have no paper of cardboard restrictions as to composition. They could contain chemicals that will eventually damage the coins. For someone that is just accumulating the coins and no intent on long term preservation, they are OK I guess. Many companies make albums also and yes they are binders that usually, not always, have removable pages. In almost all instances they have slots and plastic slides on the front and rear of the coin slots for visuals of both. Whitman, Dansco, Littleton, etc all make such albums. Also, there are plastic pages for a 3 ringed notebook that hold 20 of those 2x2 coin flips. With those you can make your own album. As to what is better for anyone, that is up to the individual. Most albums are expensive and as already noted for the State Quarters, the price of an album would be more than the collection is basically worth monitarily that is. However, for presentation purposes and just enjoyment of the hobby, that slight cost is of little importance. An album is more in line with something you would want to share with others. The front and rear of the State Quarters is much better when in an album. Dansco is probably the more expensive ones, look more expensive, made a little better, are a little larger than Whitman's albums. I use the Whitman Classic Album due to that is basically all there was when I started collecting coins. Most have removable pages and I've found that for additional pages Whitman has a greater variety. The main thing is to do what you can afford, prefer and like as a hobby.
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great info now I can tell my family what I need for my birthday if I can wait that long
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