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Thailand (Japanese Occupation) 10 Sen 1943 Any Further Information Please

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I have read that Thailand is one of the countries never have been colonized by western countries unlike all its neighbors. Unless they experienced a 3 years japanese occupation during WWII. I am investigating more about that period and this coin, unless there is only a little information about it. I know its tin and I could hardly find below photos of the coin on internet as it was only existing sketches taken from the famous coin catalogue.

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@John1 good joke... But no it does not help me at all.

The truth is...It's me who had just requested to add this coin on Numista today.

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I was not joking,I was trying to help.
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Sorry for misunderstanding than. What I know about this coin is...Its an occupation coin used in some parts of Thailand during WWII by Japanese Soldiers. Like Nazis did in Poland. Do they had a military central bank as well? Did they get payed with these coins? Could they exchange this coins when they returned Japan after surrender? Was its value equal to japanese yuan or Thailand baht? What was its weight and diameters? What is writing on it? I have many questions that I am looking for an answer for this coin.

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I have never seen anything like this. I suspect that they are very rare.
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@gxseries Yes they are very rare. They are the most expensive coins made of tin as far as I know and it is only 76 years old. When I search for them on Google now the first result appearing is this thread hahaha
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Interesting post.

Some of the information in the references is confusing. For example, the statement that the coins were minted for use in Japanese occupied Malaya (not Thailand), but the devices are Thai. Presumably minted in Thailand to help their Japanese ally?
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@tdzimia I found below details.

It seems like thailand minted these coins to use in the regions they have invaded in Malaysia. But when japanese invaded those regions in ww2 they used these coins.

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I find it odd. The Indonesian coins that were issued during Japanese occupation does appear in the JNDA catalog but not these. I am suspecting that they were only issued as patterns and never circulated.
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I collect thai coins and never had seen this until now. Very interesting, I actually have 2 thai coin books that show every probably possible pattern, etc. I can check to see if its in there. These are probably very very rare and very pricey.....interesting as I'd love to own them but I'm sure some other hardcore thai collectors want this too.
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It seems like thailand minted these coins to use in the regions they have invaded in Malaysia. But when japanese invaded those regions in ww2 they used these coins.


@apeka, thank you for posting those excerpts from literature.
From reading them, it looks like this was the situation:
- Japan (not Thailand) invaded these northern states of Malaya in 1941.
- In 1943 Japan "gave" these states to Thailand, which had become their ally.
- Japan minted these coins dated 2486 (1943) for circulation in these Malayan provinces. So it seems clear they minted the coins knowing that Thailand would be administering these provinces, hence the Thai designs. Not clear if they were patterns made in very small amounts, or larger amounts intended for broad circulation.
- For some reason the coins were never placed in circulation as intended (occupied Malaya) but were used in a more limited way by Japanese troops in Bangkok.

Interesting history.


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