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Reporting: Criminal Forgeries Of The Twoonie

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 Posted 09/14/2019  12:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Be aware that criminal forgeries of the Armistice and the McDonald twoonies are circulating in Quebec and Ontario respectively.

The rings of the forgeries are cupro-nickel, therefore non-magnetic while the cores are copper-rich brass.

Ownership and commerce of these pieces are criminal offences.

The Armistice is well documented and discussed in NumisCanada
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 Posted 09/14/2019  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Contact Mikey if they are on ebay. He may have some already and can explain any markers that are there.
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These are not the usual Chinese fakes made for the collector's market. These are made to defraud the Treasure: not one piece here and another there - probably thousands were produced and are beginning to flood the commerce, not ebay.

Markers? Wrong obverses, lighter, non-magnetic, no edge lettering, bad copies of the original devices, etc.etc.
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Sometimes you wonder about bad guys, they take all the time to produce a fake and they choose to create a special limited design rather than the original polar bear.
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They chose the special one because people don't see them often and would be less likely to know it was counterfeit?
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The forgery problem £1 coin got so bad in the U.K, that they had do an entire re design with a bi metallic planchet.

That what happens when the government goes cheap with a base metal high value coin, but the public has to accept them on confidence, just like paper money.
One way of looking at it, is that the Government is being dishonest in the first place.

As a result, an opportunity then presents itself, for the dishonest members of the Public to make, circulate and profit from forged base metal high value coins.
Even the Roman government went down that track, by issuing plated denarii, just to fool the Public.

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If you counterfeit a 2 million strike coin that is kind of hard to find in the wild when there's many million of the regular polar bear design.
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The problem in the U.K. is that in 2014, The Royal Mint estimated that as many as 3% of the £1 coins in circulation were counterfeit.
That's why the change to bi metallic had to be made.
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ty, I want 1 of each if available.
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It would be cool to have one for study
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