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Conserving An Ancient Lead Coin

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After find some references to lead coins and how they have been largely ignored by collectors for years (and how British coin collectors would routinely put them in the trash bin), I decided it was an area I might be interested in. I recently purchased an Indian lead coin, pictured here:

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There is some white corrosion on the surface of the coin I was not ready to address. Honestly I hadn't thought of the difference of lead from other, more noble metals when I pulled the trigger. While I generally hold to the don't clean a coin school of though, unless it is ancient, I am wondering what to do in this case? Does any one have experience with these types of coins?
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I would leave the coin just as it is.
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I agree leave it alone. The orange lead oxide (white can be an oxide or grey and yours looks orange) and that is protecting it in my opinion. Not like a green bronze disease or horrible Iron Rust. This Lead Oxide stuff is stable in my opinion. Or has been for the coins I have seen.
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@AR, I have a similar piece and would agree to not clean it. I store mine in a 2x2 in a box with some silica gel. If you live in an unusually humid location, you may want to be more careful.
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The use of pure, or nearly pure lead for coins is unusual even in ancient times, because lead is really too soft to be used in a circulating coinage.

The Ishvanus of 3rd cent AD South India, the Guptas of Northern India, and the Khmer Kingdoms of Angkor issued lead coins. The Chinese also issued lead cash coins, but few of them have survived.

Generally speaking, the very thick patina that a lead coin can accumulate will protect the metal underneath, and that is why those that have survived from ancient times have managed to survive.
For this reason only remove as much of the patina that prevents the coin from being identified, by rubbing with a cotton cloth. Leave the rest of the patina for protection.
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If you wish to remove the loose soil I think that you could use an ultrasonic bath with a mild detergent in water, followed by rinsing in water. I agree that I would not do more than that.
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If the consensus is to leave the patina I will let it be.

For some reason I had it in my mind that the lead oxide would corrode the coin, and was thinking it would be best to remove it and coat with a layer of wax or lacquerer.
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Yes, good decision. The white lead oxide patina is correct for a lead coin of this age. I don't think it will accelerate corrosion, and may in fact protect the surface from additional oxidation. I have several similar lead coins with white patinas and they look fine.
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