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New Member
United States
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I do coin and currency estate evaluations for lawyers in our small town and also for private parties. On my most recent evaluation, I found this 1865 Indian Head cent with these lines on it. At first I though they were scratches, but they are definitely raised, and they are over the top of some of the lettering and date. The closest I can come to finding something similar is an error on the 1865 that has a raised lathe mark that arcs through the feathers on the headgear. No such line here but the fact that they are raised indicates they are not a post-mint error. At least I can't think of anything that would cause that. If this is an error, it is a most unusual one. I would really appreciate your combined expertise on this one. Many thanks  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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PSD. Metal is raised because it was forcibly displaced.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Kinda looks like some one has cut piece of the coin out?
That's an odd coin, I'd like to know what happened to it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Deliberate damage. No value any longer.  to the CCF! |
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New Member
 United States
19 Posts |
Thanks, but I'm still confused. Under loupe magnification, there are no grooves below the surface next to the raised lines, which would be required to get the metal for the raised part. I suppose one could surmise that some sort of too scraped in from the edge to raise the lines but that wouldn't create the "Y" shape at 10 o'clock.
I know I'm an amateur among the pros here, but I really can't figure how you get the raised lines without a die error. I just can't think of a mechanism. Especially when you see how the raised line is over the top of the date.
I'd be very grateful if you can help me figure out what I'm missing or where I'm going wrong with my thinking.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Metal between the raised lines was probably pulled off during the scraping process. Believe me, this did not leave the mint like this!  |
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New Member
United States
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Thanks - appreciate your insight. And though I'll never know, I'll always wonder what whoever did that was thinking.
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Moderator
 United States
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Yes definitely not lathe lines, but rather a sharp blade (damage). Multiple trips around the coin with some areas in common (e.g. by the date) and different tracks in other areas (e.g. at 9 o'clock).
Also, welcome to CCF @sd!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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deliberate damage, and appears to be done a long time ago. that's why a lot of the things we would look for have been worn in, and over the old damage. if this was done recently you would see the cuts, and displaced metal much clearer.
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Moderator
United States
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to the Community! |
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New Member
United States
19 Posts |
Thanks, Silverwolf. That makes more sense of my confusion.
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New Member
United States
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And thanks for the kind welcome, jbuck.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seguedad!  ,damage is damage, and it sucked the value right out of the coin. |
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Posted 09/28/2019 6:26 pm
