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 Posted 10/31/2019  09:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kayben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello all.
40+ years ago I found this 'gold'? coin in the mud of the Thames,I always thought it was a trade token but looking elsewhere on the net I am now wondering. Except for a water wash it is in exactly the same condition as found. It has been suggested it may be french, can anyone suggest a date and origin please? coin is around 21 mm diameter.

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I'm thinking this may be a button....
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 Posted 10/31/2019  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep. Button with a bit of the plating separation at the attachment points.
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mmmm, not a button I'm sure, that hole does no go all the way through, the dark bits are dried Thames mud and there is no corrosion albeit a fair amount of wear.

I'll find some one to test the metal type.
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Looks to be a jeton. They were struck in England in the 13th-14th centuries. Probably brass or copper.
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Yes a Jeton was what I thought it was, showed it to a UK specialist who demurred.
Brass or copper would surely have corroded.
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Any chance of an image of the second side that is in focus? Certainly there is some readable lettering ... AME is visible at 12:00-2:00, the style of lettering suggesting 1550 or earlier (or imitating that era).

Certainly there were medieval gold coins from northwest Europe with a cross reverse, but it would be wafer thin, and likely weigh about 5 grams or less, so that might also help. I don't recognize that design, but there are others out here with more experience.

I agree that the dark areas look like plating flaking off, but you are in a better position to see if this is mud encrustation (raised bits on the surface).



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