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Is Numista Wrong If You Want To See Is Coin You Own Rare?

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I have got this coin here:
Pó#322;grosz - Jan I Olbracht Kraków mint
Here is the Numista link:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces124688.html
It says something like it's price is 1100PLN and that is so much money.
I was finding that sellers often sell it for 15$-20$ and less

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(here is the image where Numista says it's price is 1100PLN.
What does it mean?
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 Posted 11/04/2019  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any site can put whatever price they want, until someone buys it then that's a 'real' price.
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Check ebay sold values for an idea on current value.
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 Posted 11/04/2019  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pemmp, the listed price of nearly $300 for that coin does seem kinda high, but $15 seems a little low to me. Perhaps you could join numista and create your own listing to help move the price to somewhere in the middle?
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 Posted 11/04/2019  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pemmp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for replies!
@Spence I already have joined Numista.
I've added a lot of coins I have in ,,My Coins"
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 Posted 11/04/2019  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This price is probably the sold price of the pictured example, and $300 might well be correct for an example of such quality.

I do admit that it's misleading as ch*rp, but it's probably not technically wrong.


(The actual rarity value is the Numista Rarity Index below, but it's almost irrelevant for Poland-Lithuania and Kingdom of Poland coins, because those sections are managed by a ridiculous splitter who thinks that nearly every remotely major variety should have its own page.)


EDIT: you sure that the $20 sellers have this type and not the other one?
To my untrained eye they look pretty similar, and even the NRI is a much more reasonable 79.
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@january1may
Here are pictures of mine coin


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If pictures are not clear enough,I can take another

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 Posted 11/04/2019  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pemmp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are prices from ebay.
They are even cheaper.
Every coin is from same seller and there is like 50 of them.

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This topic was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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Quote:
Here are prices from ebay.
Yup, that's clearly the other type I linked.

In fact, I think so is your coin (if it's even Jan Olbracht at all - I can't read the legend).

The rarer type has an O under the crown; the more common type has a flower.
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Im not 100% sure but I think that there is a flower,I can't see because coin quality is very low
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@january1may

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All of the comments are correct:
- the version with the O (Kopcki 386) is rare compared to the version with the flower (Kopicki 387), but not extraordinarily rare
- in low/medium grade (F-VF) the flower type is worth no more than $5-10, and the O type a bit more. As you see from ebay, it is a very common coin. This coin currently sells in lots of 6 for $25-30 at the Polish auction house WCN.
- the example pictured in Numista would likely grade in the AU to MS range at a US grading service (it was graded EF+ by WCN in the December 2016 auction where it sold) and is quite rare in this state for a medieval Poland coin, hence the high value

Because of the condition of your coin, it is worth no more than the silver content, no matter which ruler and which type.



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@tdziemia
Thanks!I agree with everything,I bough lot of 3 different Polish coins for 1$
Others are in much better condition.
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Here is the first one
Numista link: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces65413.html
Images:

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Second one:
Numista link: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces104468.html
Images:

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@tdziemia
I also see a year 1548 on second coin:

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