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Unusual Silver Eagle Part II

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 Posted 09/26/2008  1:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add peapo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Attached are finally the pictures of the unusual 1992 ASE with ring on reverse thanks to SeatedNut.If anyone has seen this before

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it would be very welcome. Ideas and thoughts also welcome, of course. I've never seen any other Silver Eagle with this clearly defined ring on the reverse. As you can see, the obverse is just plain typical 1992 American Silver Eagle. Thanks very much for all the help getting these pictures out.
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That is very odd ! and not as I was guessing from the description a result of elevated die pressure I had a completely different picture in my mind as to what you were describing .

I cannot see any way for this to be production related , I'm leaning toward post mint damage/tampering of some kind .

the line looks like it was cut into the coin and then the area outside of it with the lettering was etched with something to form a contrast .

interesting !




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 Posted 09/26/2008  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
peapo,

Interesting piece. If tooled post-mint, it's phenomenal work. If I had this in hand I would get expert certification ... read PCGS.

btw ... you omitted the last step in the pics. If you would have highlighted the text string and clicked on the icon, they would be visible on the page like this ...


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Yes, now that you mention it, I see I did omit those final steps in posting the pictures. I was so excited about getting them up at all I just got carried away! Next time it'll be perfect. Thanks so much for your help and steering advice.... Regarding the ASE: I don't think it is tooled, as the field has been viewed by me at 60+ power magnification and is smooth and unmarked all the way inside the ring and into all the irregular shapes of the eagle's feathers and designers initials. The entire reverse field is also frosted or matte. My pictures are not great of course, I did them through the AirTite holder and should not have. I suppose someone of exceptional skill and equipment could have machined and polished then frosted the field, but I don't really believe it. I agree PCGS would be the way to go. I was hoping someone might recognize this bullion coin as a special prestige set or special commemorative or some such thing before I spend the money to send it off. It's a very pretty coin on top of everything else and I have given it to my coin collecting cum budding numismatist Grandson. (The kid is fourteen and has decided to specialize in PCGS PR63 or better Morgans....... Ambition. He is off to a good start and works any job he can to buy the slabbed Morgans one at a time when he accumulates enough money. I gave him the one slabbed Morgan I had and then this ASE as encouragement. I will continue to work with him getting it identified and certified. Thanks again for all the help and information.
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 Posted 09/27/2008  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dimetime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1992 -1995 are the years they were tiring to get less movement in the roll.
Maybe that what on the rim, rip marks from the roll
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 Posted 09/27/2008  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That ring looks like it is from the airtite holder, not from the coin.
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that is what I was going to ask, as I have years ago seen air-tite holders that looked sort of like that, they were to magnify the coin but did not work. but I hope that it's the coin.good luck
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if that were so why only one side of the holder?
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Odd, I can't quite tell if it is on the coin or not. If it is on the coin I'd have to say that it doesn't look post mint because tooling would leave a surface much different from the matte surface of the rest of the coin.

If it was the result of a magnifying airtite and you are wondering why it would only be on one side, simple answer would be that the airtites are two shells and a magnifying half has been combined with a non-magnifying half.
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