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Canada 50 Cent 1946 Grade Comparisons

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 Posted 11/09/2019  10:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys,

1946 Half dollar canada as shown below. Two photos are the samples for grade comparisons between the two.

Obverse only! Will post reverses after.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, first photo is mine raw 1946 design and second one is TPG graded ( will reveal source of reference) Comparing the two based on the photos.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top one looks AU-58 to me, the bottom looks EF-45, looks to have light scratches on it.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad the reverses aren't present. All too often the latter are much superior to the obverses. Tough grading call as I feel both photos aren't crisp in their definition. Be that as it may, I'll go a reticent EF-45 on the first and a strong VF-20 on the second.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The plastic through which we see the second coin is thicker than the mylar through which we view the first coin.
Any other comparison is meaningless.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 11/09/2019  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I adjusted your photo to reduce the color and brightness. With those adjustments, I see a bit of strike weakness on your coin (about the same as the second coin), with modest wear on the cheek, jaw line, ear, and hair brushed over the ear. There is some residual luster in the lettering. I'm on the bubble here. Absent something on the reverse that would detail your coin, I'm comfortable at VF-35 for your coin, with a decent shot at EF-40, depending on the TPG. On a 1946 design, I realize that close call means a lot of money.

The second coin again has a bit of a weak strike, but more evident wear than yours, with definite flatness beginning to run from the cheek to the jaw. It does not appear that any luster exists on that coin. I'd call the second coin VF-30.

Here's the adjusted photo of your coin:
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Thanks for the inputs guys. The second photo is graded by ICCS VF30 photo is curtesy of Saskatoon Coin Club. I wanted to make a comparison between the two.
Here is the reverse on mine

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Good eye fortcollins!
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 Posted 11/09/2019  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are different. Obverses , second coin is 1948 to 1952 obverse .
Both are not nice coins , first VF details once cleaned , second coin Fine 15 details , cleaned !
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You can't compare a 1946 to a 1948- 1952 because different dies were used. In 1948 new dies with a slighter smaller head and more detail in the hair was produced so a 1948 with slight wear can look as good as a MS 1946.
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When I saw the second coin graded as VF30 I figured I would put it against mine and see which one scores better / different or the same. In technicality regardless of the die being different, a VF is a VF no matter what. The small wiggle room on +/- is 90% about the coin and 10% about the die. I'm with pacific coin for the second one as well. F15 max..... a lot of wear for anything more. In that case I feel mine is a solid VF25. Could be 30. Too bad for the cleaning!
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 Posted 11/11/2019  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin flipper you can't just ignore and compare two different coins. Although the dies are similar they are not the same and thus what jimmy says can't be ignored a VF 1948 should look different then a Vf 1946. Also you can take a picture of a coin in different lights and see something totally different. The only way to learn is to see as many of these coins as possible in hand. Pacific coin is accurate in my opinion
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 Posted 11/12/2019  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol I honestly did not even see the year being different and the die being different for that matter until Pacificoin mentioned it.
I hope I did not offend or ignore anyone. I was trying to see if I can put my 1946 ( design ) as VF25 / 30. When I saw this 1949 50 cent being graded VF30 by ICCS who is kind of strict then I thought mine looked in better condition. I'm just thinking if a coin of a certain year is being graded VF because of its wear then another coin of another die or year with similar wear should grade the same...
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To me they are both at VF-30.
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