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Need Help Identifying Coins From Mughal India (I Think)

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I do believe that these are both real coins. I do not see any signs of cheap casting on the smaller of the two coins. Any info on these would be greatly appreciated!



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Update: I have identified the larger of the two coins. It is in fact from Kutch, and is a 3 Dokda coin. It is Y# 33. Does anyone know what the exact date may be?

I still need some help on the smaller coin.

Thanks!
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The Kutch coin is 1888AD
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alexgutmancoins- Wow. Thanks!
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Just for your edification - on the reverse in the middle you see
the text string '1^^^'. That is the date in Arabic, the '^' converts to an 8.

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I didn't know that they use the calendar. Thanx for the information
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wwhitman- wow thanks for that info! That really is very helpful.

Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to identify the smaller coin?
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Indian coppers are notoriously tricky to track down. Often, the key distinguishing features have been either omitted from the design or are "off the flan" - These coins were struck from dies that were much larger than the blanks they were struck upon.

In this case, you're fortunate - a primary mintmark is present. On the side you've labelled "obverse" (which is, in fact, the obverse) just to the left of centre, there's a large symbol that looks kind of like a lowercase "Times New Roman" i, only with a bent base. This is the Overseer's mark of the Jodhpur mint from about 1936 to about 1940; you'll find coins like this listed in Krause under Indian States - Jodhpur, KM# 131-133 (Edward VIII) and 141-143 (George VI).

In this case, I can't see any trace of a date, and I think it's "George" rather than "Edward", so that makes it KM# 143.

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Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to identify the smaller coin?

I recall that the old Craig catalogue had a handy list of Indian States mintmarks - it sure saved a lot of the flipping you have to do with Krause nowadays. If anyone knows a website where someone's attemped to list these mintmarks, I'd be delighted to know.
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Sap- wow. once again you have amazed the crowd. Thank you very much!
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I'm very glad to know what this coin is, but does anyone have a guess as to the grade? Thanks!
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