ID For 1648 Coin | Neapolitan Republic 3 Tornesi

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TMFM New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 09/29/2008 1:24 pm I am a museum registrar. This coin is one of 4 different coins that were donated to our museum as being from a POW of the 131st F.A. "Lost Battalion". They were in the Hawaii, Australia, Dutch East Indies, Java/Burma. They were worked on the "Death Railway" Sorry but the coin did not scan particulary well. The coin is copper,one side has a date of 1648, one side has a crown topping a shield with SPON inside. If it will help for ID, one of the other coins is a 3 grana coin from Naples date 1810. The other two are thick copper (4mm) and are hand cut in a circle, the designs are almost completing worn off. Any information on the orgin of the coin would be appreicated. Image: coin.jpg 8.66 KB Image: coinb.jpg 7.71 KB Lisa Edited by Sap 10/02/2008 03:09 am Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16826 Posts	Posted 09/29/2008 6:27 pm I believe you'll find the letters across the shield are actually SPQR, the old motto of the Roman Empire (short for SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS, Senate and People of Rome). The crown and shield, however, indicate clearly that this is not in fact an ancient coin issued by the old Empire. During the middle ages, the Senate of the city of Rome did on occasion issue it's own coinage, separate from the coinage system issued by the popes who ruled there, and I know they did occasionally use SPQR on a shield as their coat of arms. I suspect this is one of those coins. I couldn't find anything that matched exactly from a quick search; all I could find was this Venetian-style gold ducat. When I get home from work I'll look up my references and see if I can find a better match. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 09/29/2008 7:46 pm I believe this is from the Neapolitan Republic 1647-1648 http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...247&Lot=1054 And this description from an unpictured coin: 6574 ReVOLTE DE NAPLES EM 1648 HEN LOR DUX REIP N Ecusson couronne sur lequel on lit SPQN Rev HING LIBERTAS 1648 Corbeille remplie de fleurs 6574 Revolt NAPLES EM 1648 HEN LOR DUX REIP N Banner crowned on which we read SPQN Rev. HING LIBERTAS 1648 Basket? filled with flower Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 09/29/2008 8:01 pm Looks like the 3 Tornesi pictured here: http://www.rhinocoins.com/ITALY/rna.../REPNAP.HTML Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16826 Posts	Posted 09/29/2008 9:10 pm Yep, that's more like it. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
TMFM New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 09/30/2008 08:29 am The 3 Tornesi is it! Thank you all very much. Now if I could just find the original donor I would be a happy camper. lisa Report this Post to the Staff
wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 09/30/2008 09:44 am to the forum. Hopefully we will be able to assist you in identifying others Report this Post to the Staff
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