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 Posted 10/01/2008  8:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I dont have the KM identifier for this Austrian-Netherlands Thaler
- can anyone help here?

KM-#-For-This-Thaler

Thanks much,
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 Posted 10/01/2008  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zohar444- it is KM#32 (P. 79 of the new 18th cent. standard catalog)

Very nice looking coin. I'm surprised that this KM# doesn't have a mint mark.
I actually have a similar one from Milan, Italy.
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 Posted 10/01/2008  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks !
I believe it is the Brussels Mint. Does this show as that KM# for non-mint mark coins?
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No problem at all. Yes, there is no mint mark on coins from that mint for the years 1781-1790. It is amazing how cheap these Kronenthalers are since they are very nice looking and are brimming over with history.
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 Posted 10/01/2008  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks much - indeed reasonable this one cost $60. Not bad for such a nice 1784 coin.

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Here are some pics of mine from northern Italy:



Image: KM-#-For-This-Thaler ItalyAustrianAdministrationcrocione1792Mrev.jpg
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Image: KM-#-For-This-Thaler ItalyAustrianAdministrationcrocione1792Mobv.jpg
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Believe it or not, I got this one a couple of years ago for $18
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That is close to melt ! Great buy.
What is the KM for that one, I have a 1794-M.
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Thanks. My dealer really discounts foreign coins since I live in a part of the country where collectors are, well, rather provincial and narrow minded. And he has even said "If I don't sell it to you and give you a good deal, I'll have it for the next 20 years."

This is C#59.1 How long ago did you get your 1794 M? Just for curiosity sake, do you have any pics?
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About a 1 1/2 years ago - very nice condition. Will try and scan and share with forum.
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Attached scans:

KM-#-For-This-Thaler

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Ah, very nice. Thanks for the scans! Out of curiosity, which grading company slabbed that?
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Zohar grading company - seriously, I bought the slabs - http://www.amosadvantage.com/scotto...no=&Tab=coin

to store the nice crowns.
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hmm interesting. Not a bad way to store coins. Well, thanks for all of the info and the pics. One last question for you though: for how long have you been collecting Thalers?
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 Posted 10/01/2008  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2 years and change. My strategy is to refocus my German State Crowns (Baden, Prussia, Hamburg, Wurttemberg etc) on the Habsburg reign of Europe. On the US front, I collect Morgan, Peace (certified), a few key dates of each type (certified) as well as 3 Cent Nickel pieces. I am selling off the rest of my sets to fund the Thaler sets.

In general, I have yet to find a trading partner for German State Crowns on this forum, so I opt for ebay to raise funds.

How long have you been collecting the Reales? If I had to guess, I will be collecting these one day :)

Cheers, Zohar
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I started off on US coins a little over 10 years ago. I dabbled in a little of everything US, and tried to collect what circulated in the American colonies. This is how I got my first 8 reales around 2001. I bought a couple of other 8's, but soon thereafter I started to feel a bit frustrated with US coins. Something just seemed odd about silver dollars that have mintages in the tens of millions having such large price tags. My collecting focus shifted to foreign coins. So now I just buy whatever strikes my fancy when I visit my local dealer or go to an occasional show, but there is a hierarchy to what I collect in that I am more serious about collecting certain KM types of coins over others. 8's have remained at the head of that ever since. I highly recommend venturing into 8 Reales since they were coins of the entire world due to the breadth of their circulation.
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Sounds like we share a similar path. Where do you mostly buy them? What is the price range for VF grade range?
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