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Hammered Again This Morning

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 Posted 10/05/2008  7:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I had almost given up that I would find anything of interest this morning at the Dedham coin show.
Then a dealer pulled out this groat and said it was the first Irish coin to feature a harp.

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This groat was likely minted in 1537 since the crowned 'H' to the left of the harp stands for Henry and the crowned 'I' (Romanized 'J') to the right of the harp stands for his third wife Jane Seymour.
(excerpt is from Handbook of the Coins of Great Britain and Ireland in the British Museum By Herbert Appold Grueber)
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 Posted 10/05/2008  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are five groats from the 1500s - four of Henry VIII and one of Phillip & Mary.

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 Posted 10/06/2008  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nifty early Irish.
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 Posted 10/06/2008  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap!
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 Posted 10/07/2008  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Those are some nice silvers t-man ..I bet you parted with a few Shillings of your own ;)

I especially like the groats, wouldn't mind the larger photos of them.
Esp the Mary coin.
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 Posted 10/08/2008  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
real nice collection of groats!
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 Posted 10/08/2008  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wonderful collection!
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 Posted 10/08/2008  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still waiting to see bigger pictures of those groats and why is it called a William & Mary when I can only see Mary?
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 Posted 10/08/2008  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Matt!

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Here is the thread from last year when I just had bought the Philip & Mary Groat
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 Posted 10/08/2008  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I'm Henery the Eighth, I am!
Henery the Eighth I am! I am!
I got married to the widow next door,
She's been married seven times before.
Every one was an Henery
She wouldn't have a Willie or a Sam
NO SAM!
I'm her eighth old man named Henery
Henery the Eighth I am...
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 Posted 10/10/2008  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice photos Tom - not so sure about the rhyme?

So is the ghostly outline behind Mary meant to be William of Orange?
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 Posted 10/10/2008  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Matt!
This coin is from the reign of Phillip of Spain and Mary I (1550s).
Only Mary I is shown on this coin. Some later coins show their confronted busts.

William of Orange and Mary II ruled later in the early 1690s.
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 Posted 10/10/2008  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I had a funny feeling I was missing something there!.. thanks for informing me..oh yes,
I have certainly seen the facing busts ones in magazines...
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 Posted 03/01/2009  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I bought another Henry VIII Irish groat this morning at the coin show in Dedham, Mass. This one has the crowned initials "h" and "R" for Henricus Rex.

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Some very nice coins!
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