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Two Mysterious African Coins

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Hi! Please, help me with these coins - the first one is definitely Ethiopia but want to know something more about this coin, the second is probably Ottoman (I see "tughra") or from Egypt (pyramids?).
Maybe someone can tell me something more about them?
Thanks!

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 Posted 10/08/2008  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one is from Egypt indeed. A 5 piastres coin with a "dual" date - 1984 on the left, 1404 (the AH year) on the right. Now the coin from Ethiopia ... hard to tell since AFAIK the face value is in words, not digits, and I cannot read the language.

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 Posted 10/08/2008  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Ethiopean coin is a 5 cents and is dated EE1936, which is 1944 in the western calendar. These were produced from 1944 until 1966 but with the date frozen. It is copper and has a mintage of 219,000,000.
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chrisild, leebreeze, thanks for help!
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1984-1404AH Egypt 5 piastres KM#555.1
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obv: Christian date left of denomination
varities exists with narrow and wide rims

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An additional bit of trivia on the Egyptian one:

Coins have been around for some 2,600 years. The Pyramids have been around for even longer. Yet these coins, from 1984 AD, mark the very first appearance the Pyramids ever made on coins.
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Sap Say:

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An additional bit of trivia on the Egyptian one:


That is a truly interesting fact. You would think that would have happened prior to 1984
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I think I recognize the Arabic calligraphy on the second coin, it looks like an epigraph for one of the sultans/rulers of one of the Arabic countries:
http://content.answers.com/main/con...hmuds_II.gif
This one's Mahmud Han bin Abdulhamid muzaffer daima. Maybe someone else can confirm.
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I think I recognize the Arabic calligraphy on the second coin, it looks like an epigraph for one of the sultans/rulers of one of the Arabic countries:
http://content.answers.com/main/con...hmuds_II.gif
This one's Mahmud Han bin Abdulhamid muzaffer daima. Maybe someone else can confirm.


The arabic calligraphy has nothing to do with any Sultan since the coin is dated 1984 and Egypt has been declared a republic since the 1952 revolution.

The last Sultan was Sultan Fouad and he became a King in 1922.

The words are "Arab Republic of Egypt" and it is written in one of the Arabic handwriting types or designs similar to that used on the Ottoman coins, I think thats why you got confused.
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Thanks for correcting me

As for the pyramid one, it's not the first appearance of any pyramid on a coin, but I don't know about Egyptian pyramids. (I have a 1964 Mexican coin with the Pyramid of the Sun:)

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Thanks for correcting me

As for the pyramid one, it's not the first appearance of any pyramid on a coin, but I don't know about Egyptian pyramids. (I have a 1964 Mexican coin with the Pyramid of the Sun:)



I am sure that is not an Egyptian pyramid, but still it is a beautiful coin, thanks for sharing
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No, that Pyramid of the Sun is in Teotihuacán, not far from Mexico (City). Been there, climbed that, got a sunburn ... but I digress. Interesting that the Egyptian pyramids had not been on a coin until that issue came out. Had not realized that, maybe because other monuments such as the Sphinx (Giza) have been depicted since Egypt became a republic. By the way, according to the Schön catalog (in German) the coin shows the Cheops (Khufu), Chefren (Khafre) and Mykerinos (Menkaure) pyramids, and the country name in the "shape" of a tughra on the other side ...

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Thanks for the info Christian
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