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Lincoln Roll Find - Chuck And Bill, Please Recheck

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 Posted 10/12/2008  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm wondering if that(lines)is also what causes the wood grain effect on older copper coins that we see now and then? I bet it could be.


No, that's caused by an uneven alloy mix in the planchet.
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 Posted 10/12/2008  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Here is another coin showing the striations. Again I don't know why they are there but I have dozens that look like this. I was able to put my hands on 6 of different dates in the matter of an hour or so.

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As far as an explanation from the Mint....forget it. They have a public relations dept. that used to be fairly good about responding to questions from authors and coin publications. A recent editorial in Coin World by Beth Deisher, The Coin World Editor tells about the fact that the Mint won't even respond at times anymore, and the information they provide when they do provide any usually doesn't address the question at all. In short, I've been waiting for 7 months for an answer to a simple question. The Mint's public relations dept. is not doing well, I'm afraid.
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Bad Thad has the right explanation on the "wood grain" cents. It is a problem with the mixture of the alloy and is not the same as the striations on these coins which are actually on the surface.

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The striations on the posted coin do not look nearly as uniform as those on mine. Yours look more like random scratches then straight, even lines.

It's interesting that on both coins the portrait has a flattened appearance, like the strike was not strong enough to fully bring out the design. I don't see how a clogged die could cause that, do you? It looks more like a strike issue to me.
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I'm not sure what I would be re-checking on this coin, it hasn't changed since I saw it the first time.

The missing devices are a combination of weak strike and possibly some grease filling some of the areas of the die, but much more of the effect comes directly from the weak strike. The lines running across the coin are normal. In some form or fashion they show up on a lot of weakly struck coins. The lines strike out of the coin with good impressions from the die. They are probably part of the process of rolling the metal into sheets to be cut into blanks. The reason the lines don't go into the rim is because the rim strikes up first, even with weak strikes.

This is a curious coin, but not a valuable one. It could be classified as an error, but is by no means what I would consider a valuable centerpiece to an error collection. I have seen them a number of times before in roll searches and pass by them when they show up...just not interested in clogging up my collection with minor things. On the other hand, I have never found an unplated cent, a brockage, a struck through capped die...all more valuable coins that are considered 'errors' by the mainstream.

I guess it all comes down to where you draw the line with your own collection. Some people save every die crack, every die chip. I don't know why or how, but they do. If I saved every coin like that I came across, I would have well over 50,000 coins in the collection. As it stands, I have only about 5,000, and am happy with it at the level it's at. I don't have anything that a seasoned Lincoln specialist would toss in a bank bag wondering why I bothered to save it.
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