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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by BadThad
10/12/2008 2:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi, Yep...You have this one pegged. It is Struck Through Grease but then the coin had a rough life after it left the Mint. Bill |
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Agreed. It would have been a pretty nice one.
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Don't show it to any religious fanatic, they'll denounce it as a witchcraft coin!
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Bedrock of the Community
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The thing that gets me are those are lines on the obverse only. They are NOT on the rim! How the heck could those get there so perfectly, right to the edge of the rim and not on the rim? I think this was done by aliens! LOL
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Bedrock of the Community
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The rim is part of a setup process that forms the rim to widen it to protect the designs. I've seen these line on many of the newer zincolns. I have an idea they are part of a texture on the planchet material. For some reason they don't all disappear during striking. Flow through devices/fields and remain. But because of the setup process the metal is moved enough to remove them from that area.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The rim is part of a setup process that forms the rim to widen it to protect the designs. I've seen these line on many of the newer zincolns. I have an idea they are part of a texture on the planchet material. For some reason they don't all disappear during striking. Flow through devices/fields and remain. But because of the setup process the metal is moved enough to remove them from that area.
WOW!  This is pretty profound! I would love to see some pictures of what you have. This is the first time I've ever seen it and apparently Chuck and Bill too. I can't wait to read their comments.  If this is indeed not a post mint problem, then this would have to classify as an error, right?  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I believe it's a Grease Filled Die with some kind of post mint damage for the lines. Almost like it had been laying on a paper towel or rag with some chemical on it and that would also explain the heavy toning. Just a guess tho. Cool coin tho Bad thad.  Here is a Greaser I have found also.  Edited by coindexter
10/12/2008 3:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Almost like it had been laying on a paper towel or rag with some chemical on it.... The thing is, the lines are not on the rims at all. If this was lying on something, the rims would be affected too. Plus, you have to read coop's post. This isn't the only coin in the world that looks like this apparently. Nice Greaser you have there! Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Hi,
Please don't assume that we've never seen any like this before. I have at least a dozen that have been struck through heavy layers of grease that look exactly like this , lines and all.
I have not done any kind of study into what causes the lines but they happen as the coin is minted. It seems to be a function of the striking through the grease.
I have no explanation for the striated lines at this point, but I've seen them often and they are not post-mint damage.
Thanks,
Bill
Edited by foundinrolls
10/12/2008 4:31 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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So this in fact qualifies as a mint error then? When you said "it had a rough life", I take it you meant the corrosion and not the lines/flattening of the obverse features? I interpreted your original comment as pertaining to the flattening/lines.
I almost discarded this coin because I thought those lines were post-mint damage. Now, I think it's worth keeping! Is there any way to substaintiate coop's theory that the lines are in the planchet? Wouldn't a blank planchet have the lines?
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I've never seen a planchet prior to being struck that has those lines but I can't rule it out.
Almost every copper-plated zinc cent that I find that was struck through a very heavy layer of grease has the same appearance , lines and all.
That's why I lean toward the issue of those lines being some anomaly that occurs as the coin is struck.
I'll see if I can find one here and photograph it.
The other point about your coin is that it is damaged and stained. had it not been damaged and stained it might have been worth a premium.
It is worth saving from an educational perspective but wouldn't be worth much at all otherwise.
Thanks,
Bill
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OK, thanks Bill.
It'd be interesting to figure out where those lines come from. Would the mint be willing to explain?
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I'm wondering if that(lines)is also what causes the wood grain effect on older copper coins that we see now and then? I bet it could be.
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