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oriole Pillar of the Community Canada 5246 Posts	Posted 12/29/2019 6:28 pm The images are similar but are of the different sides, and I am unsure of the orientation. Sorry This weighs 0.3 grams and has a diameter of about 13 millimeters. This was a product of the Excelsior Collectors Guild from the late 1990s, so I suspect that it is not a rarity. The COA merely claims that it is a silver Denaro of the 12c century. It looks Hungarian but that it a guess. Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 12/29/2019 6:51 pm A bunch that look similar to my untrained eyes...I'm not nitpicking at legends enough to know for sure if any match...but they seem to be of the ilk: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1281472 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1017339 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1269540 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=761294 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3110945 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1743386 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3982497 Edited by Kamnaskires 12/29/2019 6:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff
oriole Pillar of the Community Canada 5246 Posts	Posted 12/29/2019 7:17 pm Quote: my untrained eyes Bob, you are being too modest. You have bagged it-at least the place and era. I can read "VE RO N A" on one side. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34424 Posts	Posted 12/29/2019 9:22 pm Nice pick-up @oriole and great investigative work as always @bob. Yes, I believe that you have a Denaro of Verona, but from the 13th Century. It was issued by Frederico II (AD 1218-1250) and is attributed as Biaggi 2970. The obv legend is something like F CI I CI (but running counterclockwise). Here is mine for comparison: "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
oriole Pillar of the Community Canada 5246 Posts	Posted 12/30/2019 08:24 am Thanks, everyone. That seems like a match to me. Those Medieval letters are really hard to make out! Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7955 Posts	Posted 12/30/2019 10:39 am Both lovely coins! And great ID work. I'd love to learn more about Italian medievals without actually expanding my collection (one reason I hang out here Not too tough to make out the VE RO N A on the reverse, but indeed that obverse legend is mystifying. Browsing through Bob's links, I just get more confused on the interpretation of the legend on that side. I see that Biaggi 2970 has something like F D I D for this side and an attribution late 12th/early 13th, but the third acsearch link calls this legend CI VI CE VE (both retrograde and counterclockwise), and attributed later, late 13th early 14th, as Biaggi 2972. To me, they look the same, and there would appear to be an issue with the second interpretation of the legend, as it would require the engraver to use two different forms for the letter V (as the V in Verona on the other side is quite different). Not the first time I see lots of potential for confusion on Italian medievals Edited by tdziemia 12/30/2019 11:49 am Report this Post to the Staff
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