Wishful Thinking Or 8 Over 7 Flying Eagle

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nohope587 Pillar of the Community United States 5953 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 07:34 am Sorting through my cull pile this morning I found this. Am I just reading to much into the date or is it the 8 over 7 variety? Thanks for your help. Report this Post to the Staff

coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 08:30 am Too corroded to tell. Report this Post to the Staff
nohope587 Pillar of the Community United States 5953 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 08:35 am Thankyou coppercoins. Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 12:47 pm the corrosion/wear would erase most of the markers; they're pretty faint even on higher-grade EDS coins. I'll also mention there's an easy way to eliminate coins even in lower grades: look for the broken wing tip between OF and AMERICA (see pic below). That is present on every 1858/7 Snow-1 to some degree. There's also an MPD between the 8 in 1858 and the eagle's breast which is the second most prominent marker. (click to enlarge) (a better detail of the 1858/7 marker) Edited by KurtS 10/09/2008 1:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nohope587 Pillar of the Community United States 5953 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 4:45 pm The more I stare at it the more I think I can see the outline of the 7 ad the doubling on the first 8 and 5 but we all see what we want to see I guess. I don't know about the wing tip the coin is just too worn to see clearly. In this grade I doubt it would carry a premium anyway so I'll be content with my 1858.... Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 5:01 pm That's more the way to look at it. Realistically, die variety collectors pay the premium value for coins they can show off - if the coin is in too low grade to be certain of what you have, it's not going to bring a premium. Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 5:32 pm Not to upstage expert advice already given-- As a help for anyone searching for this variety, here's the 1858/7 in a lower grade showing wing tip's characteristic weakness. Rick Snow calls this a hub variety present on many dies, including this one. In every example I've seen, there's a break in the tip (arrow) roughly at the relief of the field, as well as a weaker, clipped arc in the curvature of the tip's upper edge. Compare to other photos here. It's very distinctive, and should help you spot a possible even from a mediocre ebay photo. Best of luck to all! source: Red Book's A Guide Book of Flying Eagle and Indian Head Cents by Richard Snow Edited by KurtS 10/09/2008 5:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
trdhrdr007 Pillar of the Community United States 2335 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 7:52 pm I've been looking for one of these on ebay myself. The break in the wing tip is the indicator I have been looking for. I've seen several possibles, but most of them have been bid up beyond what I would pay. It's kind of cool to have a shot at getting an unusual variety for a bargain. Report this Post to the Staff
nohope587 Pillar of the Community United States 5953 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 8:25 pm I would like to thank both Coppercoins and KurtS both of whom have been very helpful, I now know more about flying Eagles than before. Report this Post to the Staff
Sir Ferrari Pillar of the Community United States 671 Posts	Posted 10/09/2008 9:00 pm Quote: The more I stare at it the more I think I can see the outline of the 7 I had this same experience a while back, when I thought I had an 1885 cc Morgan dollar...the more I looked at it, the more I saw it. (of course, it wasn't there) I'm glad to know others have the same experiences! Report this Post to the Staff
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