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Has anyone recently gone through a box of all 2019 cents? I had a box a few months ago that I basically kept 10 rolls and returned the rest to the bank. But now, with about a dozen "regular" cent boxes under my belt again (after a muli-year hiatus from the hobby) I feel confident again of my ability to distinguish higher grades of these super shiny untouched coins. This last box of 2019 cents I had came directly from the mint (I live in Ohio). I wish now I hadn't returned them, but at the time I was too intimated to search through them. Now, with discoveries of errors and the desire to get a MS-66 or 67 cent, I am hoping to get an all 2019 box again. I am picking up a box tomorrow from my local bank, and I hope they are all 2019 cents. I assume it's too early for 2020 cents yet, but that would be nice too!

So, has anybody been going through 2019 cents lately? Any MS-66 or 67 finds? I'd love to see one!

Also, a general question that relates to this... if I was lucky enough to find a MS cent, with clear fields and spot/problem free, and if it would get stabbed straight away, can/will zinc rot still occur while stabbed? How much does air and general circulation add to zinc rot? Or is it just from within, and all zinc core coins, stabbed or not, will suffer from it?

Thanks and happy hunting!
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The only coin that would be worth finding or grading would be ms68. Ms67 and 66 are common and not worth grading fees at all. Trust me, 68s are expensive for a reason. I've gone through 3 boxes of 2019 by cents and found no 68 candidates because all of the coins are plagued with carbon/ milk spots.
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Yeah, on the few rolls I had opened of pennies directly from the mint, most had spots of some sort, like whatever finial wash they sprayed them with left what look like water spots. Is that what you are calling "milk spots"? Any suggestions for dealing with them? Can they be removed?
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Unfortunately no, nothing can be done about them. That's why MS68 cents from the early 2000s are so cheap, because those spots weren't an issue then. I believe it has to do with the way the mint polishes the dies, but it's a real shame.
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merclover,
I am guessing you are getting the boxes from your local bank? Those do not come from the mint,they come from an armour car company like Brinks or Loomis. The coins can still "rot" after slabbing because the slabs are not airtight.As to grading,you will need to learn the subtle differences between MS67 and 68 https://www.PCGS.com/Photograde/
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Johm1, I am not sure where the bank got/gets their boxes, but the one I got was labelled "U.S. Mint" in the packaging tape. Maybe they just packed the rolls and one of the services you listed delivered them to the bank? If I get the box again I'll snap a photo of it.
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Ok, picked up my box today, and I was correct... all 2019-P pennies. It will be boring to sort through all the same coins, but I am hopeful I can find a MS-68 or two, and I'll be on the lookout for any errors.

This box I got is different than the first one I had. The outer box has "$25. pennies" printed diagonally over the whole box. The rolls are white with "N.F String and Son, Inc. Harrisburg, PA" printed on them. So does this mean most likely the mint sent bags that were then rolled up by this third party? I guess that if true, this increases the odds of nicks and gashes on the coins? Bummer. Oh well, I am up to the challenge of going through 1,250 brand new pennies. It's the thrill of the chase, isn't it? That, or cheap entertainment, lol. Wish me luck!
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Oh well, I am up to the challenge of going through 1,250 brand new pennies


shouldn't a 25$ box have 50 rolls times 50 coins= 2,500 cents to search
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Silverwolf... math has never been my strong suit.
BadThad, thanks for the link. Will Verdi-care remove the dried spots found on new cents?
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Nothing can be done to get rid of the spots, which is why the
MS68s are so rare.
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Strike question: Where is the one or two places to look to differentiate higher strikes from lesser stikes(in regular business strike coins)? I've been trying to carefully study MS-66+ photos on PCGS... finer points seem to be the hairline on the back of Abe's ear, and maybe Abe's beard down his jaw? Any suggestions?
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Ok, several rolls searched of this all 2019 box, and I'm finding lots of crap. Tones of scratches, oodles of spots. If this is the future of new cents, the poor quality means there'll be little numismatic value going forward.

Anybody else finding this?
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There is hope in the 2019p cent series.
Look at WDDO-011 for to-drool-for doubled die, for a modern shield cent anyways. Scroll down to WDDO-011 and check out the date. (A decent DDR on the initials also.)
http://doubleddie.com/2474337.html
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Will Verdi-Care remove the dried spots found on new cents?


No, in my experience those cannot be removed without damaging the coin.
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