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2018-P Voyageurs Quarter -- What Am I Seeing?

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Not certain what this area is on the obverse below the ear, but of course was looking here in search of a doubled die. Any thoughts?

2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?
2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?
2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?
2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?
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You maybe seeing die polishing because that neck areas are part of the fields. If it's raised, then I would like a closer view. But if it's polishing, it will be flat.
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die polishing.
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Not sure I understand. The area is raised as compared to what it would normally be. Normally it'd be slightly recessed where the jawline and neck meet the ear. Anyhow, here are some more pictures taken from some different angles. I'm guessing it's probably a polishing or an abrasion of some sort, though, now that you mention it.

2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?
2018-P-Voyageurs-Quarter----What-Am-I-Seeing?

Edit: Thanks coop and Tanman. I coincidentally came across another coin that has the same area polished on a 2017-P Ellis Island quarter just a few coins after this one.
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Like the bays on the Memorial cents, the fields are level with them. So because when the die is polished, it affects them. Same on the quarters. The polishing can affect the deeper incuse areas on the design.
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Because of how deep that part of the coin is, on the die it is a sharp peak. It's higher relief on the die than the rest of the design around it. Because of that, that point is easily removed by accidental abrasion or just polishing.

Wexler once listed a 2004 doubled ear (former WDDO-016) that I submitted. I quickly realized that it was die polishing, emailed him, and he immediately removed the listing. Your coin was really similar to that 2004 cent.
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