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1942 D Lincoln Wheat Cent - Triple Struck Or Soft Die - I Dunno

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 Posted 01/08/2020  12:25 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Guessing this is a soft die fake, but I honestly don't know. There are three images both front and back although the ones on the front are pretty soft. The lower bust (raised) can be seen by LIBERTY and what looks like some lettering in that area for the other one.

The reverse is just a mess of raised letters (not a vise job) and I tried to make three images with each of the three "strikes" correctly oriented in one of them.

Weight is 3.15g

Will be interested to see what this turns out to be.

1942-D Lincoln Wheat cent - triple design made how?


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 Posted 01/08/2020  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice find. Congrats
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Cool coin! I think the only thing that would make me think soft die is that the devices appear to affect the primary strike. But I truly think it's the real deal.
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Interesting.Maybe Mike would like to comment on it.
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Neat.
The design (e) below the M (AMERICA) doesn't appear to be US. A soft die vise job with a pair of foreign coins that had an incuse design?

(I have a 1946p with strong raised elements on the reverse also. Not as confusing or with overlapping elements like this one though. I can post an image for comparison if you like.)
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Post away Pete! More stuff to look at and compare to is better. Plus you have some neat coins and another excuse to see one.
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I'll wait to comment. Probably would be much easier to determine in hand.
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Over my pay grade.
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Here's a guess. Triple struck first two through another planchet. One on top of another. This would leave the obverse blank? Maybe?
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 Posted 01/08/2020  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sosicoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a magnificent find tropicalbats.... congratulations!

You deserve that coin to be authentic. I hope for the best for you... be waiting for Mike's comments...
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Well, looks like there is hope as not one has totally come out and said it's a "nope". It'll get slabbed if authentic and into my counterfeit collection if not, so a neat keeper either way.
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I bet it's not a genuine error coin. Probably one that's been faked.
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I agree. Altered with a soft die. Note the rims how they are affected near all the altered areas. On the reverse, note the first 'S' on States? While it appears that the some of that device is raised, note the area outside of the outline of the added device how the devices are flattened?
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I'm going to go with a soft die alteration as well.
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Here's the 1946p.

In hindsight, it is easy to see how mine was elongated when mashed with the other coin/token. Damage on the obv also and only done once.

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On your 1942, is that a raised wheat stem between the O(ONE) and URI(URIBUS)?
Yours also has very little rim damage. Only a minor amount by the base of the left wheat. It seems like a lot of work to go through making soft dies for a 1 cent coin. It just seems the rim damage is too minor for all that is going on with this one to just be PSD or soft dies.

Hope you get it figured out conclusively if that's even possible.
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