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1849 R Roman Republic (Italian states) ½ Baiocco.   |
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1849 -- French (2nd) Republic, 5 francs:   |
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pepactonius! what grade this beauty?
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I was going to show my 1849 Florin until I saw the one Pepa had (Practically UNC) here is mine in GOOD condition, but with mine you get a history lesson too.   The Florin came about in the 1840s when British polticians and merchants wanted a decimal currency like the Americans and most of Europe was adopting, however the Sterling system was entrenched and it would be hard to switch it around, especially in an era where half of the population could not read or write - springing a mathematical revolution on them would be too much. In 1848 they reached a conmpromise, a coin worth 1/10 of a Pound, this would be 24 pence and gave a coin slightly smaller than a halfcrown and worth 2 shillings. In 1849 the coins were released to the general public (Proofs and essays from 1848 exist). The coin caused an immediate backlash from Queen Victoria of all people. She was not amused by the lack of Dei Gratia on the coin, and demanded it was added (The miniseries Victoria shows her having a tantrum with one in front of Albert and Lord Palmerston). The coin was a hit with the public and was released again in 1850 with an even more gothicised design and the necessary words added. It was decided to freeze the halfcrown for a while, as the two coins were similar in value (2/- vs 2/6) and the size of the coin was slightly larger and flattened. The Gothic design lasted until 1887 and the Florin survived through to the modern era (It became the 10p coin). The Halfcrown was revived in 1874 and the two coins coexisted happily. Thats me until 1845. Edited by Princetane
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Amazing florin, pepactonius! And thanks for the history, Princetane! My 1849 UK selection is predictable: Godless Florin:   Halfcrown:  And, from across the Channel, a French 1-franc:   This was the first year this particular design by Oudine was used on the 1-franc coin, France's final king, Louis-Philippe, having been overthrown the year before. After only three years the Second Republic ended, and the Second Empire began, with new coins bearing the portrait of Napoleon III. The Oudine design reappeared on francs in 1870, with the establishment of the Third Republic, but struck in 83.5% rather than the previous 90% fine silver. |
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1848 for the UK was the year in between the Gothic Crown and the Godless Florin... Groat (Fourpence):  Sixpence (metal detector find):  Shilling:  |
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France 1848, 20 francs, Paris (A)  1848, the year of political upheavals in Europe, saw the French monarchy replaced by the 2nd republic. King Louis Philippe had to give way for a republican government, soon with Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte as president. A revision of coin designs followed, naturally. The 5 francs silver coins had also carried the royal portrait, but now a design from the 1st republic was revived: Hercules, flanked by Liberty and Equality. The revolutionary motto Liberte egalite Fraternite has been given a prominent place (this is the first time that the full motto appears on coins; minters of the 1st republic thought Liberte egalite was enough). France 1848, 5 francs, Paris (A)  At the lower end of the denominational spectrum, and for the first time in nearly half a century, new 1 centime coins were minted. In fact, no coins smaller than 25 centimes had been minted for decades. On the other hand, old small denominations, including pre-revolutionary (and pre-franc system!) liards from the 18th century, were still valid (and apparently filling the needs). The new 1 centime coins have exactly the same design as the first 1 centime coins from the 1st republic, but are machine struck and made in bronze. France 1848, 1 centime, Paris (A)  
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