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Always a treat to see some awesome Polish coins!

Here is a 1755-MoM 2 Reales "Pillar" from Spain (Mexico City mint)

I like this coin because it's quite original with a lovely patina and these coins are hard to find in decent lower grades (and getting harder by the year.)

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1754 -- Kingdom of Portugal and the Algarves, 10 reis:

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1754 British farthing:
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France 1754, Louis XV, double louis d'or, Pau mint.

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The charming little cow on the reverse is the mint mark for Pau, capital of the province of Bearn. With Bearn being the ancestral home of the royal line, it had certain privileges and coins minted in Pau added the title Dominus Bearnie ("Lord of Bearn") to the king's regular title. It can be seen as a ligatured DB behind the king's neck.


Historical sidenote, without numismatic content (skip unless you are a history/royalty nerd ): The French city of Pau, located just north of the Pyrenees and with 77,000 inhabitants, is the ancestral home of two unrelated royal houses:
1. The branch of the House of Bourbon emanating from Henry IV of France and his father Antoine of Navarre. Antoine married into the House of Albret, who ruled Navarre, and it was his son Henry who in 1589 united the crowns of Navarre and France after the death of the childless Henry III of France. His line ruled as kings "of France and Navarre" until the revolution in 1789. The House of Albret had Pau as their residence since the 15th century.
2. The House of Bernadotte, current royal house of Sweden. Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, one of Napoleon's marshals, was elected crown prince of Sweden in 1810 (after the then present royal line was about to be extinguished). He was born in Pau, without any noble ancestry. He ascended the Swedish and Norwegian thrones as Charles XIV John in 1818.
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Beautiful gold!
Yet another Augustus III coin of Poland-Lithuania, this 1754 copper 3 schilling (= 1 copper grosz) from the Gubin mint.
In the early 1750s, two new mints were opened in Gubin (on the Saxon-Polish border) and Grunthal (Saxon-Bohemian border) to make small denomination copper coins for circulation in Poland. According to Gumowski, the scale of the operations here was significant:
"in 1753 131 people were employed in both workshops, who coin 18 1/2 quintals of copper in groschen."
With one quintal = 100 kg, and 125 groschen to a pound of copper, this means the mintage of copper grooschen in 1753 was about half a million.
These mints would operate for less than 5 years, closing in 1756 when Frederick the Great of Prussia invaded the region, setting off the Seven Years' War.
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A tiny silver Pfennig from Saxony (1754 FWoF)

13 mm and 0.6 grams

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Another small coin, 1754 1 Groten from Bremen

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1753 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, 1 kreuzer:

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1753 - Kingdom of Great Britain Half Penny


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Date is a bit indistinct and photo cloudy due to dark as heck coin. Unlike the silver, the quality control on copper coins was pretty much lacking in this era.

Despite this, its a decent coin Fine to near VF on the King and quite a bit of detail. It was in a junk collection I bought months ago.
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Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth, 8 groschen = doppelgulden or 2 zloty. Largest silver coin I have from this reign, at 30 mm (and, sorry but I still have two more dates with this guy's portrait).
And a quick comment on @paralyse's contribution from yesterday

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A tiny silver Pfennig from Saxony (1754 FWoF)

Back at 1763 I mentioned that the stout fellow shown on my coin of today reigned as both king of the Poland-Lithuania COmmonwealth, and Elector of Saxony. Coins which bear his Polish title, Augustus III tend to be called Polish or Polish-Saxon. Coins which bear his Saxony title, Friedrich AUgust II are called Saxon or Saxon-Polish. Small minors like @paralyse's pfennig were used in both places, and are cataloged under either (or both) nation.

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tdziemia - I love your coins and history lessons - and looking forward to more. They are helping during a sparse period in this thread.

We have left the industrial era of mass coinage (1800s) and not quite back in the fractured 17th and 16th centuries. the early and mid 18th century was fairly quiet in the world of money.
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I agree!

For today, here is a 1 1/2 Pfennig from the German State of Saxe-Eisenach dated 1753 AD:

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1753 - Bavaria - "Madonna" 1/2 Thaler

Lots of pretty colors on a beautiful design. Most of these coins have a lot of adjustment/file marks, this one somehow escaped relatively unscathed.

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1752 -- Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, 3 pfennig:

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1752 -- Principality of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt, 1 pfennig:

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