Unlisted 2009 Puerto Rico Quarter Doubled Die Reverse / DDR Find!

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shaney777 Valued Member United States 151 Posts	Posted 01/19/2020 11:46 pm I looked through a handful of my grandpa's change tonight and found this cool DDR! I believe it's unlisted, and if I chose to send it in, it would be the first business DDR for Puerto Rico. There is a slight chance of DDR-002, but that is on satin, and the doubling here looks a little different. There are no usable die markers. If this is a satin, I wouldn't know, as it has been circulated. (2009-P) Report this Post to the Staff

Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4404 Posts	Posted 01/20/2020 10:49 am This looks like slight MD. You can also see it on the lower part of the roof and the top bar of the E. You're looking in the right spot though! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/20/2020 2:29 pm To me it looks like a contact mark. Note the affected areas NE/SW Building, fields and other areas? Report this Post to the Staff
shaney777 Valued Member United States 151 Posts	Posted 01/20/2020 9:13 pm You two have me second guessing it now! :D I greatly respect and have learned a lot from both. Hmm... I assume you both looked at DDR-002. It looks like a more minor version of that. It has a slight dip in the center of the seemingly doubled area (where the bricks separate), so wouldn't that rule out MD? I can't see how a contact mark would make that dip and separation in the middle of the seemingly doubled part. A contact mark should be one long bit with no separation, right? Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4404 Posts	Posted 01/20/2020 10:08 pm That dip rules out a contact mark, but not MD. MD is caused by the die making contact with the coin a second time during striking, so if the center of the die touched this coin again it would leave the impression of the gap between the bricks again. Voila! The dip. What really makes me rule out a DDR on this one is that, if we include the doubling as part of the bricks, the bricks have not changed in size. On a doubled die, the doubling would add to the bricks and make them larger in size. Edited by Tanman2001 01/20/2020 10:11 pm Report this Post to the Staff
shaney777 Valued Member United States 151 Posts	Posted 01/22/2020 11:32 pm Thank you for the thoughts! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/22/2020 11:37 pm The contact mark is not one area. Several areas were affected during the contact to the coin. (5) building, cloud, roof, field and on the 'E'. Just sliding damage to the coin. Edited by coop 01/22/2020 11:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff
shaney777 Valued Member United States 151 Posts	Posted 01/25/2020 03:18 am I am in agreement with you two now. I checked with a straight paper to see if anything was actually added to the design, and it wasn't. I am normally not wrong on these! I think seeing DDR-002 made me lose my mind! Thanks again. Report this Post to the Staff
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Unlisted 2009 Puerto Rico Quarter DDR Find!