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Thoughts On A Three Pence

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 Posted 10/15/2008  03:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you think is up with this three pence ? post mint of something else ?

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 Posted 10/15/2008  05:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Metalman, It looks like the coin was not centered in the press but the mark on the king's head throws a spanner in the works. Out of my league.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Looks post mint to me as the marks have been added after making of the coin.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like someone took a George VI threepence and bashed it's ears of wheat side into the Portrait side of George V. You can see the 3 wheat ears, and also the ribbon that goes across it. You can also see the lines where the edge of one coin wasn't quite centered with the edge of another one.

So, it's a post-mint mutilation. :( Poor coin.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That accounts for the obverse but what about the reverse ? and I figured that 11 or 12 years apart there is no way that the wheat ears could appear on the coin any other way .

but the reverse ? what coin design was used on it ? I can see some impressions but I cannot quite make out what it was .
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 Posted 10/15/2008  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse isn't as well 'struck' as the obverse. It looks like another Advance Australia coat of arms was placed beneath it; you can tell the top of the shield and the star with the bar beneath it at the top, rotated perhaps 15 degrees or so. At the very top you can see the impression the edge of the coin above it made when whoever smashed all these coins together smashed. I think he hit the sandwich twice? That's how many lines I can see made from the top coin's edge.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
EK, I commend your powers of observation and deduction.
Sir Arthur CONAN-DOYLE would be proud of you.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think ElleKitty has hit the nail on the head. Definitely a hammer job.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think EK is on the money with her observations. Definitely post mint damage, who knows why people do this to coins but it's a fairly common occurrence.
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 Posted 10/16/2008  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who knows why people do it. I have certainly seem a lot of them up on ebay either innocently or evilly being sold as brockages or double strikes. A key thing to look for with so called 'hammer jobs' is the side of the coin that doesn't have the new (ahem) design elements will typically be obliterated or flattened. Because of course this side was resting against some hard surface while the other side had the stuffing whacked out of it with a hammer.
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 Posted 10/16/2008  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well done EK! There was something familiar about those marks...
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 Posted 10/16/2008  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In with the scrap silver with this one .

Thank You everyone .

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 Posted 10/17/2008  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spot on EK
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 Posted 10/18/2008  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone, for your kind comments.

I may not know much, but I can at least salve my conscience that I know something about Australian coins.
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