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 Posted 09/10/2008  7:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. I wonder if anybody can advise me the best way to identify a $2.00 coin that has a blank obverse with only the two tips of the crown and part of the A and U in the word Australia showing. The reverse side of the coin of the native is intact. From the parts of the tips of the crown, I think that it could be from one of the coins issued during 1988 to 1998. If you need any other information that help, please let me know.
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 Posted 09/10/2008  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum Davidson. Without a picture, it is difficult to say. And from your description, if that is all that is visible on the obverse, you may only be able to date it as you have, from '88 to '98.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Davidson, got your note.

There's no reason to email the picture, you can post it right here. The tutorial is here....

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...g_images.asp
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 Posted 09/11/2008  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
latman100,

I had attempted to post the image of the coin but I think it didn't get through. I'll try once again.

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 Posted 09/11/2008  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, still can't give you an exact date, except to say I think you are right with the range of years. Picture is too small to even be able to say with any certainty what caused this. Can you post a larger picture and possibly one of the reverse as well?
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 Posted 09/12/2008  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gnome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse for 1988 and 1989 will have the designers initials on the ribs, HH. If it's not there then those 2 dates can be eliminated.
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 Posted 09/12/2008  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi latman100,

I'll try once again with some other pictures. The following is the obverse:

Two-Dollars-Mystery

The second image is the reverse:

Two-Dollars-Mystery

The third is view of the reed compared with a 1994 and 1998 $2.00 coins. The coin is on the left:

Two-Dollars-Mystery

The fourth is obverse of the coin with the 1994 and 1998. The coin is on the left:

Two-Dollars-Mystery

Final image is of the reverse with again the 1994 and 1998 coins. Yep the coin is on the left:


Two-Dollars-Mystery


I hope the images turn out alright this time. I'm just getting the feel of things at this time.
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 Posted 09/12/2008  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Gnome,

I first eliminated those two years 1988 and 1989 due to the HHs.
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 Posted 09/13/2008  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you weigh it? Or go to a jeweller and get it weighed? This would elimate a machining job.
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 Posted 09/13/2008  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could possibly be a strike through oil or grease or some other foreign object on the planchet. If it is a strike through, it is the most impresive one I have seen.
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 Posted 09/14/2008  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, true but the round feature in the middle of the obverse makes me think it's been done on a lathe. The mass will tell.
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 Posted 09/14/2008  05:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Originally I thought a lathe, but then all the detail would be removed, the round feature in the middle would be perfectly round and there should be evidence of the chuck griping the rims. It could have been done with a dremel or similar tool, however, so a weight would be very helpful.
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Most likely yes, but I have seen things held in collars on lathes. Mass would be interesting.
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 Posted 09/14/2008  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting...the symmetrical center hump certainly might suggest a cause. I think I see some concentric marks too, but I'd like to see a more detailed photo if possible.
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 Posted 09/14/2008  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm leaning towards a post-mint damage, i.e. whacked by a hammer or some heavy object with irregular surface but higher resolution photos will definately help.
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 Posted 09/15/2008  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've downloaded Infraview and hope to improve the view of the $2.00 coin and would post the picture. By the way I'm using a scanner and not a digi camera.

Sorry there's no Jeweller here to help me weigh it. I've gone to two shops to have it weighed on their digital grocery scale. The first scale read 0.05/kg flat and the other scale 0.006/kg flat.

I'll get back to youse after I've tried my best to enhance it.
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