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1997 Canada Cent Extreme Clip?

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Found this one recently in my stash of cents. I have several small barely clipped cents, but this seems almost too extreme. I held a regular coin in the cut out of this one, and to my amazement it fit! This one is in terrible condition.
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I think that this was made after it left the mint.
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Post mint damage. Should be a Blakesley" effect and the cut is irregular.
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Just look at the edge. Is it copper or zinc?
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I'd say that's deliberate mischief.
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Just look at the edge. Is it copper or zinc?


This. Can you post a photo of the edge? Right now, I think it is the product of post-mint fun, based on the square cuts of the rims.
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Post mint damage. Should be a Blakesley" effect and the cut is irregular.


A word of caution - on very large clips, this is not necessarily the best defining criteria. I always look to where the rims meet the clip, and the dovetailing of those rims into the clip. For very large clips, they can be highly irregular due to deformation in the upset mill (rimming machine). Straight clips can also have very subtle or absent Blakesley effects.

Also, on other errors, the Blakesley is impossible to be there. One of the trickiest ones to identify, is when an incomplete clip comes apart during or after the strike.

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Wow those are wonderful.

But how come is the rim raise when the planchet is not large enough to fit tight between the upset dies.
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What else is going on with this coin? ie: looks like something very hot.
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As SPP stated and showed you must be careful with larger clips. Here is a triple clip which has upset mill damage.
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Thanks for all the comments. I knew it probably too good to be true. After finding the split planchet, that was a hard act to follow.
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