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Seleukos I Nikator, "Poor Man's" AR Tetradrachm, Or, Peek-A-Boo Diadochi

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Recent auction pick-up - I got one of these in a bulk lot a couple years ago but sold it and have been pining for a nice replacement! It is a bucket list goal of mine to own a coin from every major player in the Wars of the Diadochi.

Seleucid Empire
Seleukos I Nikator, 305-281 BC
AR Tetradrachm in the name of Seleukos and types of Alexander
Struck in Ecbatana, c. 295 BC

Obv: Head of Herakles in lion scalp
Rev: ΣEΛEYKOΣ / BAΣIΛEΩΣ - Monograms, anchor, and grazing horse to left - ΣΩ beneath chair

Seleukos-I-Nikator,-

It is difficult to capture the truly incredible depth of this coin in a straight-on photo; I knew that these were struck in high relief, but was not expecting this:
Seleukos-I-Nikator,-

After a bit of searching, I think that my coin is a die match to this example sold by CNG in 2003:
https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=40004#

Although there are no shortage of Alexander-type tetradrachms attributed to Seleukos, those bearing his actual name are markedly more scarce, yet nowhere near as scarce or valuable as the other types - Zeus/Elephant quadriga, and the Heroic bust/Nike and trophy types - both of which typically stray well into the 4 digit price range.

Extremely short history lesson...

Born in 358 BC, Seleukos was one of Alexander the Great's most trusted companion, and was given the command of Alexander's elite infantry units, which he brought with his king all the way into the heart of India. In the wake of Alexander's sudden death, he was one of the key players in the Wars of the Diadochi, as the kingdom was inherited on paper by Alexander's simpleton half brother Philip III with his as-yet unborn son Alexander IV as heir apparent. Disagreements turned to open warfare, and although Ptolemy ended up with the incredibly rich Egyptian lands, Antigonus and Kassander with Greece, and Lysimachos with Thrace, Seleucus won the bulk of Alexander's empire, stretching from Asia Minor to the border of the fledgling Mauryan Empire. His reign was marked by perpetual power struggles and increasingly fragile alliances, culminating in his untimely death by assassination in 281 BC. Seleukos was followed by his eldest son Antiochus, and his legacy was an empire that would check the growing Roman Republic until the middle of the first century BC.
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Wonderful coin with super details. Would love to have one like this.
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There is a lot detail in the write-up of Seleukos 1 Nikator that is fresh learning for me.
Thanks.

Best edge detail picture I have seen!
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That is some seriously deep relief - great photo. Rich iconography on the reverse - packed with monograms and symbols. Excellent pickup, Steve.
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Cool coin and very nice photos.
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What a lovely coin Steve ...
I agree amazing relief with super detail...
Thanks for the little history write up too..It's an area I'm not that familiar with.

Congrats on a great find and thanks for sharing...Paul

ps...WOW nice photo!
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Thanks all!

One thing I have learned to keep an eye for when browsing auction listings is to select a portrait that has a clear pupil, and preferably an iris, too - that is a hallmark of one of the more skilled engravers of the era, and I have never been disappointed with the coin in hand!

Another little tidbit that I felt would make the write up a bit lopsided - Early in his reign, Seleukos lost a war against Chandragupta Maurya, although the terms of the peace treaty were still quite mutually beneficial - in exchange for most of the land east of Bactria and his daughter's hand in marriage, Seleucus received 500 war elephants and a powerful ally, which both allowed him to focus his undivided attention toward his western conquests. I could not find out what happened to Apama once she was sent to India, however - I do not think she contributed to the royal Mauryan bloodline.
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I will keep in mind the idea about the iris being the mark of a quality die engraver.
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500 War Elephants
In exchange in exchange for a daughters hand and ......... Afghanistan !
Can't help suspect 'Nik' was smiling as he walked away from that !
I would bet he saw the place firsthand when Alexander wasted 3 precious years chasing his tail

I recently watched a documentary about the history of modern Afghan wars (R Stewart) which quoted the British General Frederick Roberts regarding the Second Afghan war

"and though it may insult our pride
The less the Afghans see of us
The less they will hate us"


Update
I see now in his bio that his wife Apama was from Sogdiana (north of Afghanistan)
His firsthand knowledge of the place is unquestionable
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By the by
Great coin
The kind that makes a crusty old bronze guy tempted
It has happened once or twice
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Nice granular surfaces.

The incredible shrinking Seleucid empire. They changed the world, but there's virtually nothing left to see, except for the coins. IMO no one has improved on their diemaking in 2500 years.

I have known Chandras and Guptas, but have never known a Chandragupta. Here are his bartered elephants marching in to battle. They did stray into the 4 figure range, but just barely.

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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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