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1788 US Massachusetts Common Wealth Coin (Help Please)

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 Posted 02/13/2020  09:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JilliBean to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello friends,

I recently have received a 1788 US coin, I think it's either a Half Cent or a cent but I would like help in valuing and grading it, I have posted pictures of it below. Also here is a link I found explaining the coin. https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/co...l?coin=17041

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Thanks for all your help guys, please reply if you have any information that could help me value and sell this coin, I have seen they have previously sold for $85,000 due to its rarity, but I don't know the condition of that coin,.I am aware this coin is worse for wear.

Thanks
Louis.
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 Posted 02/13/2020  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually that coin is exceptionally nice. And it is a one cent piece. One cent 1788 Ryder 2-B, not a great rarity as a variety but it is rare in XF and up. This coin would have the sharpness or an XF-45 or AU-50, but the porous surfaces would bring is value down. Would probably be an EAC VF-30. Unfortunately I don't do colonials so I would have no idea as to value. But now that you know the variety some searching in the Heritage Archives could possibly turn up some value estimates.
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 Posted 02/13/2020  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JilliBean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Conder101!!

I will use this information to continue researching.

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 Posted 02/13/2020  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin! Colonials just can't be valued like regular issue US coins. XX is worth XX$ in XX condition just doesn't work for them. Conder gives excellent advice, you've got some research ahead of you!
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 Posted 02/13/2020  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JilliBean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would anyone be able to give a rough price range? Or know anywhere in the south / south east of the United Kingdom that would be able to value it?

Thank you again
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 Posted 02/13/2020  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you could list it on ebay for $1000, it would sell. That's a nice coin.
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Checked Heritage and a Ryder 2-B in XF - AU seems to be in the $1,000 to $1,500 range.
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Anybody have thoughts on authenticity for this piece? A genuine coin worth $1000 would likely inspire a few counterfeiters. Given the relatively crude manufacture for most colonials it might be relatively easy to make deceptive fakes.

Not suggesting this is a fake but I'd be alert to the possibility.
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 Posted 02/17/2020  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im no expert on coins like this, but it looks way off to me, especially the eagle's talons on the reverse.
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 Posted 02/18/2020  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's real. Actually the fakes I've seen of these are really pretty bad. I compared this one to some on Heritage, and it matches up.
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 Posted 02/19/2020  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it is real as well.
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