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1818 1c Matron Head Large Cent #3

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Picked this up recently. Thoughts? Thanks!

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AU-55 with great luster
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That sounds about right.
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Most guys know I'm not an error collector but that obverse circular raised line had to be on the planchet before striking or the stars would also show that circle line . I'm thinking EF-40/45/50 .
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very nice. AU range seems right.
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I have to recuse myself, saw the auction.
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Most guys know I'm not an error collector but that obverse circular raised line had to be on the planchet before striking or the stars would also show that circle line . I'm thinking EF-40/45/50 .


The raised line around the obverse connecting the stars indicates that this was minted from a failing die which was cracked around the entire circumference of the entire coin. You can also see that the stars are not split nor well defined, consistent with the decreased pressure exerted by a cracked die. It is thought that in 1818, dies were expensive and the Mint continued using them until they were completely obliterated.

This coin is the N-10 variety which is known to be the most common variety found in the Randall Hoard. The prevalence oh the VVLDS 1818 N-10 variety in the Randall Hoard led dealers at the time to speculate that these coins were restrikes produced with old mint dies at around the time of the discovery of the keg of coins in Georgia in 1878.

However, this coin is atypical of Randall Hoard coins because most coins of that provenance had prominent spots and flyspecks.
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Thanks for the enlightenment .
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The reverse does not show wear with some of the original mint red color still on the coin. The obverse looks like a XF 45 with the wear on the hair, bun and a flat area above the L in LIBERTY. I could not grade the coin higher than AU55/58.
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Very nice coin. AU-55 obverse judging by the hair, AU-58 reverse. The obverse hair wear just might be a strike problem. AU-58.
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55 rev 45/40 obv net 45 imo...really really beautiful coin no matter what.
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weak strike. I'm looking really close at the cheek, nose and ear and I'm not seeing any signs of circulation as well as the high point of the leaves. MS62BN with some nice red peaking through here and there.
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This one came quickly as the seller is local. Our Panzaldi seems to be most in agreement with the graders at NGC. The obverse die is VVLDS even with the shattered die. I have seen N-10s of this date with split stars in the obverse. This impression is much later in the life of the die. Nevertheless it is still beautiful imho. Below are the in-hand pictures.

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Nice luster and great variety. Tough to distinguish slight wear from a weak strike, but it's a beauty either way!
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I like it, nice coin!
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