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1952 S/S 1MM-019 Question

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What do you all think the area outlined with arrows might be? Something struck through the coin or just a lamination issue? Thanks.
https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mds


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 Posted 02/27/2020  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a retained interior die break? Doesn't look like it's peeling up like a LAM or a struck through.

-CH27
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 Posted 02/27/2020  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heavymetal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok cool. Thanks CH27. I never even thought about that.
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The die polishing has weakened the coat so much, the die scratches are showing as raised above on the jacket. The mid devices are getting as low as the fields from the over, over polishing.
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@coop- I don't see how die polishing could have done this. The shape is more of a defined "blob" for lack of a better term. It's also slightly raised. That's why I thought a lam or struck through. Although I never thought about a ribd, I have to go with CH27 on this one.
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The point that the die polishing reduced the fields so much that the sub design elements are now level with the fields. So the die polishing on the fields have an incuse mark on the die, leaving a raised line on the coin. That is what you are seeing.
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Ok so I outlined the entire area. I just want to be sure you're seeing exactly what I'm seeing. If I'm still wrong I apologize.


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Well it does look like a retained die crack. If it hadn't been for the outline, I would have missed the connection. not much of a premium for it. Probably a better way to image something like that would be to use a lower angle of light. Then it would make the little crack show up better. Light and shadow affect.
(Seldom would you use this angle, but because of the die polishing, it would be the only to make it stand out better) The normal way to image this, whitens out the color differences. Thanks for being persistent. I didn't see if from the other images.
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Sorry about the lighting. I'm in the process of ordering a light ring to help with better photos. The fact that I'm using an s6 for the pics doesn't help either. Not really interested in premiums as I would rather collect than sell. Thanks for hanging in there and for your knowledge.
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Light rings are OK for full images of coins. But no help at all for micro-images. It drowns with too much light.
This is what you want for lighting. Shows the devices with light and darkness. (which really makes an image)
A ring light removes the light and darkness.
Single bulb:
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Only one bulb is best for micro-images.
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