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A BEP Serial Numbering Mistake: Duplicated Serial Numbers Issued For 2013 New York Star Notes

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There have been several articles printed by renowned currency experts Peter Huntoon, and Ed Zegers, discussing in detail this unusual event in BEP history. A couple of their articles are attached to give detail as to what actually happened, and how some astute collectors noticed an anomaly, and thru the use of a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request, were able to officially find a major Error of the BEP, thus creating a collectors opportunity.

Here's a quick re-cap. The BEP issues Serial Numbers for Notes to be printed by the Washington DC and the Fort Worth printing facilities, for all 12 of the Federal Reserve Banks. Once printed, the notes are sent to the designated FRB for distribution.

In October and November 2014, the DC printing facility received authorization and printed New York Star Notes with serial numbers B00000001*-B00250000*, and B03200001*-B09600000*, they went out into circulation.

In June and July 2016, the FW printing facility received authorization and printed New York Star Notes with serial numbers B00000001*-B06400000*, and B06400001*-B09600000*, they went into circulation.

Thus there were duplicated serial numbers for the same 2013 New York series Star Notes B00000001*-B00250000*, and B03200001*-B09600000*.

Now, all these notes are out in the world somewhere. Thanks to some very dedicated collectors out there, a project has been started to try and find these notes, and MATCH them together with their duplicated counterpart. Can you imagine the odds against finding notes that have been out in the world for years and finding an exact matching serial number? The average lifespan of a $1.00 note is 5.8 years, how many have already been pulled from circulation?

Mr. Ed Zegers in Maryland, and Mr. Karol Winograd of Florida, and Richard McAllister of New York, along with a couple of others, have been maintaining a database for collectors to report their 2013 New York Star Notes to, and then when a match is made, they will organize the bringing together of the notes. There is also a thread here on the CCF for the duplicated 2013B* notes with contact information for the above Gentlemen if you want to get involved.

To date, there have been only four known matches made in the world. And now the First graded by PMG pair has been completed, and presented here today.

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The bottom note was found in an unopened BEP pack by a collector in Las Vegas, Nevada, from the CCF. The top note was circulated, and found by a collector (and one of the project organizers) in New York. The collector in Las Vegas, matched a second uncirculated note as well, and by fate, it was with the same collector in New York, with another circulated note. So this made it easy for a mutual swap of one note each, so both owners could actually have a matched pair.

This unusual situation, and monumental accomplishment, will hopefully bring light to this rarity, and give fellow CCF'ers an opportunity to get in on the fun. The Zegers/Winograd project has several thousand notes listed, and you are encouraged to join in. The more collectors searching, the better chance there is to make more matches. Good Luck and happy hunting collectors!

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Great input on the duplicate serial numbers, thanks.
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There is comprehensive information about this subject headed by member Snoopydoo on a recent thread here; http://goccf.com/t/364714
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If anyone has one of the notes that fall with in the duplicated serial numbering range and you want to be a part of this epic journey, here is the basic information they are requesting:

The Serial Number on the Bill
The Plate Position Number
The Face Plate Number
The Back Plate Number

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Then submit the above information to both:
Mr. Zegers at dollarsavr@aol.com - not a typo, no e in saver
Mr. Winograd at kwinograd@snet.net
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P.S.
Once you start submitting your note(s) by email, you will receive a spreadsheet periodically as they are updated from Mr Winograd.

I like to print them out to use as an easy reference to flip pages and quickly compare already found notes to those I acquire from different locations. Maybe it's just me, but my heart races every time I find one of these notes, and then start flipping pages to see if I got a match, it's addictive and fun.

Give it a try!
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We got two more matching pairs!

Please go the other thread for details and pictures!

http://goccf.com/t/364714&whichpage=5#3181644


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Just added 1700 more notes to the project,
Check and see if you have a match!!


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Wow, a 7th match was made last night!

See other thread for details:

http://goccf.com/t/364714&whichpage=5#3182541
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Another pack to add!!

Come on everyone, please search your 2013 B*'s, you may have a winning note!!

Only 7 known matches made in the world so far, are you going to be number 8?

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Has anyone SOLD a pair yet ? If so, what did it sell for ?
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I still haven't heard of a pair even being for sale.
So far as I know, mine is the only one that's been graded.
Greg in VA, is hesitant on sending his pair in because there both well circulated.
I haven't heard if the others have sent there's off yet or not. I'll ask Karol in my next email if him or Ed are going to have there's graded.
If I hear of one selling, I'll post it immediately.
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We made an 8th match!

See the below link to the other thread for details!

http://goccf.com/t/364714&whichpage=6#3249082


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Here's the image of the second graded pair!

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Here's the image of the second graded pair!
Excellent!
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Wow I guess I have been under a rock most of the year and missed this post. I will be having a look at my notes when I get home tonight.
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