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New Member
Netherlands
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Hello, I was hoping someone could help me identify this coin (be gentle, I'm new to this). I can find two types of commemorative coins like this but not with the same combination on the obv and rev. One has helmeted and mantled bust left with URBS ROM on obv, and suckling she-wolf on other side. The other has helmeted and mantled bust left with CONSTANTINOPOLIS on obv, and winged Victory, foot of prow, holding sceptre and shield on other side. However, my coin appears to have URBS ROMA (the URBS is at least clear) on the obv but the winged victory on the other side. Any hints much appreciated.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your coin is something like this, I think: https://www.ma-shops.com/fishman/item.php?id=853. I would class it among the great mass of imitations of this period. I've never liked the argument that imitative coins of reasonable quality must be "semi-official". Then as now, counterfeiters do the best they can. Some are quite skilled. An interesting and popular imitative type!
Edited by Kushanshah 03/18/2020 12:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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 There is another similar coin on-line, with this description: OBVERSE: VRBS-ROMA [VRBS ROMA]; bust l., helmeted, wearing imperial cloak. REVERSE: Victory l. on prow with spear, shield. TRS in exergue. NOT IN RIC - HYBRID. Obverse of unlisted TRIER [before 589] with reverse TRIER 589 (p. 223). Probably an ancient imitation. See also CORRIGENDA, VOL. VII, p. 88.
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New Member
 Netherlands
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Fascinating, Thank you!
"barbarous mule" is a wonderful new phrase for me!
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New Member
 Netherlands
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Well, there was me thinking perhaps this was evidence that Constantinople was touted as a new Rome in official materials from early on...
I live and learn.
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Moderator
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Well, there was me thinking perhaps this was evidence that Constantinople was touted as a new Rome in official materials from early on... The Urbs Roma and Constantinopolis types were part of the same issue, one announcing the new imperial capital at Constantinople and the other honoring the ancient capital. To that extent, the message was precisely as you suggest, just not on the same coin - unless, of course, you're running an illicit mint and mix up your dies.
Edited by Kushanshah 03/18/2020 12:07 pm
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New Member
 Netherlands
4 Posts |
Thanks Kushanshah! This is very interesting to me. I am a historian of late Rome and publish on early Constantinople but am a complete dunce when it comes to numismatics. Do you happen to know where I can learn more about this particular issue? I'm not even sure about what search terms to use. Thanks again, I fear this may become an all-consuming new hobby 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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here is one that I have. 
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