Help Identifying These Coins

Sorry about that, here is the first one

These are unfortunately coins that are heavily faked. I lack the expertise to tell you if those are real or not, but right off you should consider where you got them from and what you paid. Next up, I would get a very precise weight for each: do you have a reasonable precision scale that can do carats/grains level measures?


This site:
https://www.coinworld.com/voices/ge...fakecal.html

says that a bear on the reverse is bad news.

It also says lacking a denomination mark is bad news.
That covers both your coins :(

And it finally says that some % of the fakes or tokens are collectable, but only at $20 or so values.

Ok. You can get a scale for < $20 if you decide to pursue this or another hobby where it could be useful.
I found some more info and edited it into the post above. Its not looking too good. I understand how you feel; several coins I inherited were not real either. It happens, esp to casual collectors.

But I can't stress enough that I know next to 0 about gold coins. I lack the budget to make THAT a hobby. So I am just googling for you and guessing.

If/When you find more info on these, I hope you'll share it here with us, in case we come across similar one.

I am hesitant to call them coins because I am not sure they are. My first thought was they were play money, second thought maybe tokens of some sort? Perhaps the first step would be to see if they are real gold or not? I'd think any coin shop that buys gold could help. Please lot us know!