1922-S Peace Dollar - Is This À Nice Coin Lol?

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hiddengems New Member Canada 22 Posts	Posted 03/22/2020 11:25 pm So as I've been posting, recently decided to go through a chest handed down to me as I've been home with a lot of free time,, I'm not going to post everything just yet going to try and finish the Canadian stuff, but here's a few pictures of a 1922-S Peace dollar I have. I've really taken the sites info in, I've been watching dozens of YouTube videos, registered and been exploring the Heritage site and app, and going through the grading sites and their resources. But.... I'm still so confused as to what is considered a "nice" or "well-kept" coin (so mint state, proof, circulated, uncirculated, about uncirculated, etc.) as far as I'm concerned, I know my coins in here have never circulated past being placed into this cheat. Some have been I mothers for 70 years some have been in there for 40 years, it's very unclear as to what collectors and the community deem "nice" or "gradeable" coins. I'm guessing it's just something that has to come naturally with experience and age in the hobby and is left ambiguous as to not dilute the hobby's value. I'm using this 1922-S Peace dollar as an example, but some sites claim that (ok lets start with proof — proof is just coins that were minted and sold as collector coins, uncirculated, post office, etc. Have a distinct luster or shine to them, certain dies used to create cameos, etc. This seems the more obvious distinction). But then, mint state coins are referred to as coins that still hold their natural luster and shine AND are uncirculated. No one mentions if these coins were originally produced as circulated coins BUT someone caught one early on in their change and decided to store it away, or someone bought newly minted uncirculated rolls at a bank and again took the nicer ones and stored them, so it's just very confusing for a beginner.. because I go through the auctions, I scan the ebay listings, I scan through the grading sites and examples of certain coins and their respective grade, and I often see coins that are given higher headings than other ones that (to me at least) don't necessarily "look" higher grade-worthy, but again I'm a novice and just trying to learn so I understand there's wayyyyy more that's involved than just this coin looks aged or not.. because the difference between an "about uncirculated" —> which makes the assumption the coin was circulated, but maintained in pristine condition vs. "Mint state" uncirculated, doesn't explicitly state that an X indication proves this coin was uncirculated and NOT intended for circulation (which is what I thought/think proof means?). Sorry for the long brain dump I'm just trying to absorb as much information and knowledge as I can and really dive into the hobby while respecting the hobby's community guidelines and philosophy. I tried my best by taking members' advice to take nicer pictures and properly rotated and formatted for the site upload, I had difficulty converting a video to an appropriately compressed gif but I'll get the hang of it to show luster and shine and stuff if this is in the wrong section, just have it moved please, having threads deleted really are a bummer as they take time to create and are difficult to then reproduce in the proper sections thank you Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 02:32 am Not many will respond to this thread, because the original post is waaay to long and a bit of an effort to read. If you re write your first post in no more than about 6 lines, you will find that a lot more people will respond to it. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 04:44 am Does this help? https://www.PCGS.com/eyeappeal John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 08:50 am to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
hfjacinto Pillar of the Community United States 7276 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 08:54 am I'm confused as to what you are asking, but I believe you are asking if that 1922 Peace dollar is in Mint state? Well the answer is no, the Obverse (heads) has a finger print and wear on the high spots, it also doesn't look like it has any mint luster, so it maybe cleaned. The Reverse (tails) is pretty worn, so this coin has seen some circulation. The below is an example of a mint state coin, notice the shine and lack of wear? The marks are from storage or from being in Bags with other Morgan dollars, silver is soft so it tends to get marks. Here is an example of coin with various stages of wear, with the right most one being AU (about uncirculated) If a coin isn't touched for 40 years, still doesn't mean it wasn't circulated at a time.. As to Proof vs Business (designed for circulation), a Proof is a way of doing multiple strikes so the coin has less errors (preferably none) and a richer shine, there are Cameo/Reverse proofs which are polished differently than a business strike, see example of a Cameo proof below. My Slabbed Dansco 7070 with Gold Page My Slabbed IHC Set My Slabbed 20th Century Type Set Edited by hfjacinto 03/23/2020 08:56 am Report this Post to the Staff
hiddengems New Member Canada 22 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 9:31 pm Thank you hfs, and the other commenters, I knew that, I just felt I'd end up with at least one quality answer and I got it. I'm trying my best to apply all the grading resources the official websites give to something tangible in my possession and the above poster pretty much answered it all. In regards to the fingerprint comment, I do see it now in the left-center of the heads side, now when a someone describes a coin as having a fingerprint, I'm guessing this is a "printed" or more permanent fingerprint and not one that I could rub out or dab out (whatever the most "ethically" means would be of cleaning the coin non abrasively) ? Report this Post to the Staff
hfjacinto Pillar of the Community United States 7276 Posts	Posted 03/23/2020 10:43 pm There are oils on a persons fingers that can cause a permanent finger print on a coin. The oils will permanently stain a coin. Any attempts to remove said fingerprint will most likely cause damage to a coin that can result in a "details" grade. Which means that a third party grader will find issues with that coin and won't generally grade it (it could be detailed for cleaning, improper tonic, scratches,etc). Generally detailed coins don't have the value a "regular" coin does. Not to say you shouldn't buy it, just that it's value may be less. My Slabbed Dansco 7070 with Gold Page My Slabbed IHC Set My Slabbed 20th Century Type Set Report this Post to the Staff
Wideglide Pillar of the Community United States 646 Posts	Posted 03/24/2020 7:15 pm The obverse doesn't look too bad, but the reverse seems like it was a really weak strike. Report this Post to the Staff
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