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Could An Error Also Be A Variety At The Same Time?

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I was recently checking out the 2005-S Washington quarter Proof 90% silver Large die dent, FS-901, and I was wondering if the name "error" Or "variety" would apply to this coin. A die dent is usually referred to as an error yes? Then if there was a dent in the die, an error, and then it struck multiple coins, wouldn't it then be considered a variety as well? From my understanding a variety is a "die variety" where there is a second hubbing or something else like that where the die that has it strikes multiple coins then making it a variety. So would this be called a variety, an error, or both? Thanks in advance!
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I would call a die dent a 'die event', rather than an error.

In the case of the 2005-S FS-901, the damaged die struck multiple coins-hundreds or more likely, (tens of) thousands depending on how long they kept the die in use. I think that would then justify it as a variety of the normal proof strike.

Just my Two Cents.

Edit: Just in case anyone doesn't know the variety QH is referring to, take a look here: https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-dcam/511259

-CH27
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I've seen this before. I would consider it as a variety, because a ton of these were showing these same exact Die Dents.
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Alright, thanks for clearing that up CH27 and E&V! Appreciate you taking the time to answer.
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What E&V and CH27 said is correct. I'll add a coin can be both (for example a 1955 FS-101 with a broadstrike). In that case it'd be both an error and variety.
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Alright, thanks GC! Still learning all the terminology and what apples to what.
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It would be a die event. Not a variety. A variety would have to be on all struck from that die, that was caused during the hub process. That happens during the handling of dies after the die was being moved/polished/mishandled. It would be a die event as mentioned.
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