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1982 Uncirculated P & D Mint Set - 1970 S Cent Added

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I recently purchased this mint set. In the D pack one of the Cents is a 1970-S(appears Lg Dt). I have seen these mint sets before with a Cent being off one or two years, but they have always had the correct MM. I have never seen these before with a Cent being 12 years off and a totally different MM. This could be a common mistake that I have not seen much of. All thoughts and comments welcomed. Thanks!

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Something seems very odd with this. To have one set with another coin in the same pocket is one thing. It does and has happened. To be that far apart by date AND mint mark would be extremely rare. But to have this happen at both the Philadelphia and Denver is most certainly an impossibility. I would examine the packaging closely, with a microscope if need be since mathematically this could not be the case.

Still, that is a very nice set. The 1982 and 1983 sets are under valued in my opinion.
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The US mint didn't release uncirculated sets in 1982 or 1983, the Philidelphia and Denver mints did offer souvenir sets during those years. Many third parties packaged their own versions of the "mint sets" those years, you have one of those.
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Thanks, I searched 8 reales edge, counterfeit 8 reales, etc with no luck but I'll eventually hit the right words to read all the old threads from you guys.

I realize how much time it takes to answer what seem to be simple questions like: "How do I buy gold?" I just thought my question about diagonal slash marks or the line inside the edge characters (like a cast coin) would take little time. 've never seen the "line" on the edge discussed anywhere before.

I'll continue to read your discussions and start some new discussions of my own.
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Yes I agree, I find this to be odd as well. The pack is in perfect condition. There are no signs at all that it has been tampered with, that I could see.


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nfine,

Thanks for that info!
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nfine is correct, this is a commercially built set. It's pretty cool though!
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Here's one I had, there were some real nice coins in it.


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Very nice looking Coins BadThad. My set came in the same off-white colored envelope.
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I'm not sure I've seen this set before. It is very similar to the Numismatic News sets but there are enough differences to distinguish them. All of my sets that say Numis News are dated 1982 and are the same high quality as this set.

Interestingly I have a 1983 set that matches your to a "T". I had always assumed it was numis news but this new set makes that unlikely. The '83 set is also very high quality.

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As mentioned, there were no official mint sets in 82 and 83. Thats why ANY of the coins from 82 and 83 in MS conditions carry a good premium. For instance, an 82 or 3 quarter in MS66 is likely to set you back 50-100 bucks.

So, look at the coins you have. That 82D penny is chewed up, but it IS Unc. Thats because whomever did the packaging had to pull coins from fresh rolls and pack them. I would be willing to be this particular set was offered with the extra penny as a sales gimmick. Since ANY packaged set is NOT from the mint, but rather private enterprises, anything is possible.
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The coins are in good shape, I'm happy with condition. The 1982 D Cent did look chewed up in the photo I provided showing the pack. It's the common bubble/blistering issue on both Obverse and Reverse.


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It's the common bubble/blistering issue on both Obverse and Reverse.


If you look at PCGS graded examples, those bubbles don't really hurt the grade.
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I wonder why those were not advertised more. Would have sold fairly well.
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I just found a 1982 set like the first pictured.

It's very choice as well but has red lettering on the envelope.

The tokens are very lightly printed.

And of course no '70 cent.
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