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New Member
Canada
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I have a few Questions about this 1858 20 Cents: 1. Is it common for this year to have a die rotation? 2. How do you calculate the degree of rotation? 3. Does this effect value? plus or minus or not at all? Any comment or Info Appreciated. Cheers, Ray P.S. I purchased this coin at a coin show a few years ago, I think Kitchener but there was no mention of die rotation on the holder. probably insignificant, hence why I'm posting here to get info.  
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Yes, die rotation add value to a coin, as it's considered an error; how much I couldn't say...yours looks to be 20-25%.
I don't think they are that common; most ones I've seen include the 1951 dollar and the QEII series, particularly 1965-67.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I think that there is very little rotation, unless I'm thinking backwards. In your Obverse photo, the coin should be rotated clockwise, so that the V in Victoria and the A in Regina should be at the same height from the 6:00 position.... I think that this is the proper orientation. THEN flip the coin to the reverse and see what the rotation looks like ... the coin is not oriented in the holder correctly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with Okie, no die orientation.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree not orientated properly in the 2X2. Use the reverse for levelling by using the word "CENT" make sure it's level.
Cheers, Bill.
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New Member
 Canada
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Never thought of that. Indeed, you guys are correct. This is why I post on this site. Many knowledgeable and informative folks on this site.I've learnt so much in the last 2 weeks. Thanks for the info guys. I took 2 more Pics. I didn't want to remove coin from the flip I purchased in so I use the edit function on my Iphone. I started with the cents side, centered it, it was 20 degrees to center. and then did the same 20 degrees on the queen side. Once again Thanks, Ray  
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Valued Member
Canada
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If I'm correct, the clocking of your coin would be around 12 degrees. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Ray and SP67. The photos and angles confuse me. Stand the coin up on a tablein the 2X2 with "cents" horizontal and put a mirror in back of it. Take a picture showing both the front & back and you can see how much the two sides were rotated when struck. It would be infinitely easier to take 1 or 2 staples out of the 2X2, rotate it in the mylar so that "cents" is horizontal, and then restaple it.
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Valued Member
Canada
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okiecoiner. Yes it's always better to use the 2x2 frame as the reference guide for the alignment So, if you align the reverse with the holder, it will be easy to get a precise angular measurement of the observe.
The guess I did in my previous post was based on the information you provided.
If you remove the coin from the holder, a good practice is to use gloves. In fact, you shall always use gloves with coins.
Edited by SP67 04/29/2020 3:12 pm
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