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Tried this in World medals but no views or response. Sorry to drag this into the US errors but the Pope did visit from time to time in the US so pardon my bad. I have no idea what this is made of. It definitely has some silver which is obvious by the color and toning. Help with the composition and correct name would be greatly appreciated. What makes me especially interested in this round is the strong doubling on both sides. I bet it might be common on medals but this is the only one I have seen this happening on in the few I have looked at other than mine. If this is a Double die DDO and DDR is this Machine Doubling or a double die variety. I would appreciate hearing on how common this is or if it adds value. Obviously by my images you can see my area in question. THANKS ALL! First image is obverse
Second image is reverse
Third image is close up of Reverse doubled area
Fourth image is another coin without the doubling    Edited by TNG
11/05/2008 9:50 pm
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Thank you TreasHunt, Still wondering what to call this and what the metal composition of it is.
I am guessing it was made for Poland collectors in Italy.
Old school thinking, medals have very high relief and this has more of an uncirculated coin design. So it might be a collector coin of sorts.
Notice the location where they both have ITALY on it.
On the normal "coin" there is also a hallmark of some kind.
So I apologize, these are not the same "coins" or "medals"
Anyone know what metal composition ITALY usually uses for rounds like these?
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I don't know what it is or what it is made of, but both sides exhibit strong class 5 hub doubling...in other words, both sides are doubled dies. I would question how common this is for these pieces given both sides have naked eye doubled dies. That would be very uncommon for any coin issued by any government with even minimal quality control. It could possibly be that most of these pieces were issued with such doubling making it more of a notable mention than a value factor.
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Yeah coppercoins, thanks for taking time on this post. I did think there is a chance it could just be a common specimen and that perhaps a normal example of what was produced and issued despite having the strong doubling. Then again, of the 5 or 10 similar issues I have run across, this is the only one I found with this die impression.
Thank you for pointing out which class doubling it is ( Class 5 Hub ).
When I get a chance, I think I will take better images outside the 2X2 and update my photo gallery and notes on it.
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Very interesting as an example of doubling.  And, knowing a little about Italian art, the style of Mary and Jesus doesn't strike me as Italian, but Slavic. Judging from the style, I think it's more likely this medallion was produced in Poland.  Perhaps DL20K has an idea? |
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Judging from the style, I think it's more likely this medallion was produced in Poland The fly in the ointment here seems to be that ITALY is below the right arm of Mary. If that was not there, then I would certainly be inclined to agree with you because it certainly does not look Italian That is some serious doubling though, good find |
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The fly in the ointment here seems to be that ITALY is below the right arm of Mary Oh man lol--I should have paid closer attention; I just went by the style. I stand corrected. |
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