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Help Needed To Identify This Coin ( Id: 17th Century UK Half Penny).

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Hello,dear Members! Any ideas on what this coin might be? Thank you!

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a damaged 1670s half penny>
like this: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27924.html
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And with that thick, misshapen rim, I'd say it has been spooned.
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Somebody punished this coin a few times in hot spinning dryer.
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I believe they used to bash coins like this so they could be used as a ferrule on the tip of a walking stick or cane. I have seen many before - mostly late 18th and early 19th century coppers, so a Charles II one is more interesting.
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I think that's a farthing.
Charles II.
The date would be 1671 (possible, but unlikely), 1672, 1673, 1674, 1675, or 1679.
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It could be a farthing or a halfpenny, depending on the size. The designs are very similar - I could not pick out any identifying feature to tell them apart from size - did you spot something @Hogarth?
Copper Halfpennies made 1672, 1673 and 1675.
Copper Farthings made 1672 - 1675 and 1679. Not heard of a 1671 before - where did you see this?
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There are slight differences in both the obverse portrait and the figure of Britannia. Without a given diameter the easiest way to tell them apart is to look at the reverse. On the half penny Britannia's right foot is tucked behind the left leg, while on the farthing the right foot is extended and visible.
A small trial run of copper farthings were struck in 1671. They are pretty much identical in design to the loose drapery coins of 1672, the only obvious difference being the coins dated 1671 have an obverse stop after Carolo. They were added to the 1672 issue for circulation so most which do turn up have some degree of wear. My own example is only fair so here is a superior one from the Colin Cooke collection:


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Thanks for the tips - that is great!
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You are truly amazing! How many years have you studied Numismatics, I wonder?Thank you for your help!
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