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Kellogg & CO 1854 Twenty D. Coin

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 Posted 02/04/2006  12:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add albythewhitey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys, I'm a newbie :D

anyway, I was going through an old bag of coins stuffed away in my closet and I came across this coin. Kellogg & Co 1854 Twenty D. coin. I believe it was minted in San Francisco (since thats whats on the back of the coin), supposed to be real gold... it is kinda heavy.

my question is...
can gold tarnish or change color?
is there a way to tell if its real gold besides appraising it?


i was looking on ebay for this coin and they go for a couple thousand
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/18...agenameZWDVW

small fortune for me :) if its not fake.

if any of you have info on this coin, it would be much appreciated. Ill put up pics if I can later, right now I gotta go to work
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 Posted 02/04/2006  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome! Gold coins can vary in color but they do not "tarnish" like copper. There were many copies of these coins produced. Can you post pictures of both sides of the coin? Some were produced in gold plated replica's. If it were mine and I wanted to know for sure, I would send it in to ANACS for authentication. Mike
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 Posted 02/04/2006  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albythewhitey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the coin is 90% gold 10% copper and silver, thats why I was wondering. as you can see in the pics it looks more coppery than gold, but at certain spots (edge of the face and letters) its a more gold hue

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It looks like a reproduction to me. The color is way off and the design elements are not the same as an original. Look at the tail feathers in particular.Remember, this is just an opinion! I still think sending it in is the right thing to do. Mike
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 Posted 02/04/2006  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albythewhitey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
where do you go about sending it in? address?

how much does it cost to have it checked?
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 Posted 02/04/2006  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albythewhitey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm, if you look on the back side theres a little C in a circle (copyright)... I wonder who reproduced it and if its worth anything
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The color is the most obvious problem in my opinion, combined with the degritis on the reverse,, I'm inclined to lean toward a reproduction,,

The easiest way to find out would be to submit the coin as Mike has recommended,, a very small investment for a potentially large return.

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 Posted 02/05/2006  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeInFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without seeing it in hand, counterfit is my guess...Mike
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Now that you said you see a letter "C" it most likely stands for copy and is a replica coin made of brass or copper. Mike.

If you want to submit it on your own and not have to join a club or go through a dealer go to https://www.anacs.com for submission information.
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 Posted 02/06/2006  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albythewhitey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aw man, oh well :D

thanks for the help :)
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