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Valued Member
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Anyone familiar with this? Appears to be copper,22mm, 3 grams. The reverse is blank.  |
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Moderator
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"Alami" is an Islamic surname, particularly popular in Morocco. "10 mils" would be the denomination - "mil" or, in French, "millieme", was a denomination worth 1/1000th of the primary currency unit, in Egypt, British-mandated Palestine and Jordan, Libya and Tunisia.
SO, "private token from somewhere in Northern Africa or Palestine" seems a plausible tentative ID. Perhaps Palestine would be the most likely candidate, as the currency unit there was actually spelled "mils".
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I was re-searching for some unidentified tokens are there is now a referenc to a 5 mils Alami token on the PCGS site. It appears these are listed in this book:
Judaic Tokens and Medals by Sylvia Haffner
Does anyone have a copy? I'm very curious about the history of this token.
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United States
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I can't find anything like this on numista..  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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THe book: Publisher: American Israel Numismatic Association, 1978 Might it be in the ANA library? |
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United States
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So I found a copy of the Haffner book, from the book:
Massua El-Alami was born in Jerulalem in 1894...later became attorney general to the mandate government... This token is believed to have circulated on his estate and/or his agricultural school in Jericho.
It is amazing that in the internet age it took me 4 years and a 50 year old book to identify this token. No indication of rarity or value but I would assume it is scarce. I'm tempted to send it to NGC, whatever the grade it would be the top pop :)
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United States
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Thx for circling back to CCF with the answer to your question @dar. I'm going to move your thread over to the tokens sub-forum, but please add in some pics of it slabbed if you decide to go that route.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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It's my understanding that the TPGs only slab tokens from well-catalogued series. Given how hard it was to find info on this piece, I suspect this would qualify as "not well-catalogued". So I suspect this would be bodybagged as "not covered by service".
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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Just looked at the list of world tokens that NGC will certify.
"Israel, as listed in Haffner"
Looks like I'm good
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United States
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Well great news. Now we have to wait for it to return
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Valued Member
United States
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I was half joking about sending it to NGC but I justed looked at Heritage and tokens listed in Haffner can sell for several hundred dollars or more. I will definately send it in now.
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United States
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Results back from NGC. I assumed the grade of GENUINE meant there was something wrong with it but I contacted them and the response was "for tokens with in-filled incuse design elements only, we simply call them genuine. It is not possible to determine if there has been a post-production addition of ink and further, the token design does not conform well to grading on the 70-point scale" I have really no idea what this is worth but it's fun having the only certified example (PCGS has certified a 5 mil example)  |
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It is amazing that in the internet age it took me 4 years and a 50 year old book to identify this token. No indication of rarity or value but I would assume it is scarce. I'm tempted to send it to NGC, whatever the grade it would be the top pop :) This is a part of the hobby that I find both awesomely rewarding and incredibly frustrating  |
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Results back from NGC. Really glad that you got back to us with pics of this token in its slab! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well it looks quite nice holdered.
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United States
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Very nice!  |
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