On the devices that are closed, like the 'B' and 'R' on Liberty, Look at the centers of these close areas and compare them with your coin and John's listing on that die number. You will be surprised how much different they will look. (Doubled dies show a smaller opening on these. Machine Doubling will not alter these. So if you take a nice close up shot of BER on Liberty, I could make a side by side to show everyone the differences. (Or I guess I could make an image of the area on John's coin and a normal coin to show the difference. (I'll do that instead)
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