1969 S LMC DDO ? Could US Some Help With This One

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For the 1969#, if the mintmark is doubled, then it is NOT a doubled die.

Just MD. The real DDO will be very pronounced.

Machine Doubling was very common on the 1968-1972 cents those years. Even the MD was visible on the big DDO, most of the time.
You can see the MD on the yellow arrows:

But also note the hub doubling on the other date areas. A doubled die has the hub doubling on the die. Machine Doubling is caused by the machine. So just as a normal die can suffer from Machine Doubling, a doubled die could also be affected by Machine Doubling. But the machine does not cause a doubled die. Why? Because the doubled die is on the die itself. (The way the die was created was at fault) So all coins can be struck the same with the same hub doubling. But Machine Doubling can vary from strike to strike. Remember the yellow arrows above? Note again they MD is not always the same strike to strike. Some times the MD doesn't show at all.

Note how the Machine Doubling can be different from strike to strike. (Note they are all from the same die pair as there is a marker seen in each image that is a die marker)

CoopHome : MD and MD on doubled dies. 1969-S DDO-001

Think a bit on this subject. Machine Doubling can alter normal die coins and machine doubled coins. But note the images above shows that even on doubled dies, the affected areas are always reduced in size. A doubled die shows an enlarging of the devices. Also note, the areas you are looking at that shows Machine Doubling is always on the edges of the devices. On a doubled die the die creates the coins with a widened size of the devices. The spread is on the centers of the devices, not on the edges. So stop looking there. Look at the centers of the devices. Seeing coins side by side show this a lot easier on the eyes to see.
1955 DDO: (Easiest one to spot:


Now let me ask you? Are you looking at the edges of the devices? You are seeing the doubling by looking at the centers of the devices.

Another strong one. But don't just look at the date. Note the Liberty and the Motto how it is affected.

Now where does your eyes go on this coin. Your not looking at the edges of the devices, your looking at the centers of the devices.
Ok, lets look at some normal and DDO's. Tell me where your eyes are focused?





Do you find your eyes looking at the edges of the devices, or on the centers of the devices?
On this one, see if you can see enlargement of the devices?

Are you eyes pulled to the edge of the devices, or on the centers of the devices. Se when you are not seeing a doubled die, then you start looking to find something on the coin. But all you will find is Machine Doubling on the outside edges of the devices. Think about this; On these images did I have to find the doubled die? No, the jump out at you Now you are looking at spread on the devices. Now go back and check your images to see if you see spread there, enlarging of the devices or ... reduction of the devices. Hope this helps.