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Hello, someone can recognize this coin? Find near austria. Thxxxxxx   |
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Pillar of the Community
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The first picture looks like it could have a large S monogram? The small schillings/solidus minted under Sigismund III of Poland have this design, but I don't think this is the right match based on the small amount of lettering I can see.
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So good was your help, I will wait for other ideas. I will clean this coin? Clearly is silver
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@manry, I would not clean this coin (yet). Can you please post the diameter and weight? And I think that @tdz might be right about the large, potentially floriated S monogram.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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  Spence the diameter is 2.1cm. The weight is less of 1 gram |
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Anyway thx to all you great support
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Very appreciate help and GREAT the Siena republic is ok
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@gc, I think that you are onto something as Sienna looks like a pretty good match for that central letter S. The Quattrinos of that time measure more like 16 or 17 mm in diameter and the S doesn't take up quite as much of the real estate on the obv, but I think that you have us pretty close.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Hopefully someone else can get us all the way there, I can't find any reference online. I may have to buy some books.
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@Gincoin, Wow! Nice job. I will try to dive into CNI in the next few days, which should have more options for a positive ID.
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What is CNI? Searching it brings up California Numismatic Investments or Canadian National Railway.
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Corpus Nummorum Italicorum (Vol. XI Toscana - Zecche Minori) I think it is the next denomination up, 1/2 perpagliola, second half of 15th century, which has a legend on the "S" side SENA VETVS CIVTAS VIRGI, or a variant. On the other side there is a floriate cross, and legend ALFA ET O PRINCIPIV FINIS (or variant). We can see FA ET from 10:00-12:00, and INI at 6:00-7:00 in the last photo. Mass is quite variable, but usually 0.9-1.0 g, and diameter 18-19 mm. The next larger denomination (parpagliola = 1/2 grosso) has a different design. I think @spence has Biaggi, and may be able to check this? Siena Republic, 2d half 15th century, 1/2 parpagliola CNI #57-65. https://www.numismaticadellostato.i...ction=invoke p. 378 Edited by tdziemia
06/02/2020 10:50 pm
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@tdz, yes between your CNI and my Biaggi, we would seem to have most all of medieval Italy covered but this coin is still not completely settled in my mind. I am struggling with this coin still because as you point out, the weight and/or diameter are off. During the first two thirds of the Sienna Republic (1404 to 1555), both Half and Full Paragliolas were minted. The full ones are 22 or 23 mm in diameter and 1.9 to 2.0 g. The halves are 17 or 18 mm in diameter and 1.3 g.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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