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5c - 1965 Different Types Of "5"

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 Posted 06/07/2020  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numidan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you are asking for SPP, an overlay of a thin font 5 onto a thick font 5, made it hard to determine where an edge begins and where it ends. Due to frustration, that is why I was asking you to try it out so you can better appreciate the differences.

Overlay asked for:
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Instead, here I coloured one five yellow and overlay the other on top to show the differences. This is the best I can do is this.

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 Posted 06/07/2020  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I asked Mike Diamond (error and variety expert, and write for Coin World's weekly magazine) for his thoughts with this thread, just to make sure what I was asking, was not out line... this was his response to me:


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As you and others have remarked, the thickness of any particular design element can change in response to circulation damage, Die Deterioration, and intentional die abrasion. In order to make useful comparisons, you need mint state specimens representing relatively early die states that show little sign of intentional die abrasion.


I _do_ see a difference, but it is so subtle, without a definitive and easy-to-identify marker, it might be almost impossible to tell the difference. What about the near-vertical angle of the 5, and how it lines up with CANADA above it? Maybe post a photo of the entire reverse of both Type 1 and Type 2 coins?
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 Posted 06/07/2020  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numidan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not the first time we been having these kind of debates SPP and I hope all sees that I try to be very thorough with my analysis, like in this case well over 480 coins.

The main reason for investigating this: I just could not explain how the doubling on the 5 occurred. I was convinced it was a true doubled die but using the few 1965 nickels I had (sad to say they were all type 2), I was not able to justify it. Just recently, I purchased many circulated rolls of 1965, and upon type 1 discovery, I now can confirm the doubled die on 1965!


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I _do_ see a difference, but it is so subtle, without a definitive and easy-to-identify marker, it might be almost impossible to tell the difference.


I agree, if it was easy to determine, we would not be talking about it 55 years after being released in circulation.

I've looked at the surface and did not find any marker that would distinguish one type over another, the easiest way is drawing a line on top of the 5 and determining where it lies on the 9.

So, will it be collectible, I do not know!

But now we know which punch made the doubled 5 working die on the 1965 and it is easy to see this difference and can be collectible.



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